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...... Cool Stories, Pictures and Various Information. Please feel free to post. We are trying to gather all the information we can into a collection for all to enjoy. . Please keep hijacks to a minimum. Thank You for posting.

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This is a cool map from the ride up ski down days at Gore. I'd heard that in a good day you could get 4 runs in. But they were long ones that ended up at the river. I guess that's why you needed a ski patrol. To find all those stragglers. Folks were on free heels too....the good old days:



A couple more cool old Gore maps.


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Not sure if Harvey Mtn lore qualifies as "Gore History." There were some who considered this small, family run ski area as competition to Gore and the Skibowl. Total vertical was about 400' and it was served by a single Tbar:



Harvey Mtn Ski Area was actually on South Mountain in North River - off Barton's Road just downhill from the hairpin turn. I first noticed it one time long ago. I was skiing and exploring the summit and cliffs of Harvey itself....you could faintly see the old runs illuminated by the difference between the newer and the older growth.

I never knew what I was looking at until I connected with Jeremy Davis of NELSAP a few years ago.

With Jeremy's permission I excerpted a piece on Harvey Road last fall...it's here:

http://nyskiblog.com/2005/01/harvey-mtn-ski-area.html

There's more on Harvey Mtn at nelsap.org too.


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Conditions look good:



If anyone can help with the year on this photo can you post it here or at HR:

http://nyskiblog.com/search/label/gore%20mtn%20history

(Not sure why but all my images are getting sized down to thumbnails. Anyone else having the same issue?)


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Adk Keith wrote:
Harvey44 wrote:
I think the ride was 19 minutes.


I think that is about right. It was about the same as the East Chair at the time.

There were no official disembarking at the mid station. There were no attendants there to let you out, just a couple of lift operators. I know of at least one former ski patrol that more recently worked as a groomer that skied the line below Midstation. (I also saw this individual ski the last drop under the HP chair Circa 1979) I also know of others, more recently that have skied it (with half a binding no less!) Midstation was where both (upper and lower lines) of the Gondolas were operated from. Since this is were the lift changes direction you had to detach from the lower line and reattach to the upper line there. (ski lifs have a really hard time going around corners.)

At the time there was a mysterious maladay that caused the lift to have an emergency stop any time the mountain manager was in the gondola over the abyss. This would cause a stomach lightening yo-yo ride up and down while the counter balance bobbed with a full line of full gondolas.

Ahh the memories Wink

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[quote="Harvey44"]From 70s Gore Kid, a regular at Harvey Road:

"The Old Red Gondola was just "The Gondola" during the 1970s, 80s, and early 90s. Red was never in its name.

The ride from my timing, on dozens of rides over the years, was 20 minutes. I see Harv posted 19, which might be more accurate, but it was universally known among Gore regulars at the time as a "20 minute ride with a 30 minute wait."

You could NEVER disembark at midstation, unless you were personally friends with a lift attendant. The reason -- is that the doors were locked from the outside with a key. The attendant at the base locked you in, one at the top unlocked the door. The midstation had two attendants who manually dragged your car from the track of the first stage to the second stage. They would have needed to unlock your car for a skier to get out.

It was served by a cat track trail that made its way down to Lower Tannery (now a cross country trail since it was too flat for downhill skiing), which brings the question: why on earth would anyone want to disembark at midstation? Wink

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adkskier wrote:
Harv's last post has the facts. A little more info, the mid-station design was not done with an intent for unloading. The gondola was actually two lifts that were powered independently. I believe (not 100% sure) that at the time the lift was built it may have been the longest US gondola. So it was engineered with two motors. the mid-station was a transfer point much like the upper and lower terminals. it always reminded me of an amusement park fun house. The cabins detached from the cable and were moved from one cable to the next. When the transfer mechanism was working, this happened automatically. As the lift aged, the liftees would sometimes have to get up and go out to give a cabin a push. Occasionally vandals (kids) would get out of control on this lift, kicking out windows or tossing junk out windows. You should have seen their faces when were met by a patroller who walked alongside the cabin as it moved through the upper terminal with the kids locked in for a "free round trip" to meet another patroller or a cop at the bottom! The first patrollers up in the morning would often ride before the top attendants. This required riding with the door open so that they could stop their cabin (Fred Flinstone braking style) when they came into the upper terminal. Failure to properly brake could result in a hard landing as there were some cabins stored in the upper terminal overnight. The first ride was not for the faint of heart as those first riders would determine how windy it really was.

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Harvey44 wrote:
THAT is a GREAT story!

I've gotten a few PMs with regard to this thread. Another oldtime Gore skier told me he'd timed it at 17 minutes almost exactly.

I sent a note to Mike. His response:

"The original gondola was about 2 1/2 miles long. The ride to summit was just over 17 minutes."

If there are any Original Gondola experts out there with pics or info .... Harvey Road would love to publish them.

Email: harvey44@nyskiblog.com

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MidnightCarving wrote:
i was only maybe 12 years old when the old gondola was shut down, so i have vivid memories of being a kid going through the symphony of mechanics in that transfer station, and i had always wanted to go back. I finally made it back last year and scoped out the place. Its honestly got some interesting architecture, the side of the building that you enter from has some killer looking big windows. Inside there is a lift operator booth with a bunch of old magazines and books and stuff in it, and scattered about are some of the old safety stickers that say things like "capacity, 4 persons of 440 kilograms"

i took a couple of the old stickers when i was up there, if you ever see a ford explorer with "capacity 4 persons or 440 kilograms" and "emergency unloading procedure" stickers on it, its me.

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