Any recommendations on whether I'd be better off making a trip on 9/19 or 10/3 for foliage?

tom

while it's early yet, 9-19 would no doubt still be green. 10-3 would be a better bet. Gore's harvest fest is10/10-11.

Gondi ride up then walk to the summit is fun. garnet can be found along side the work road on cloud, esp just below the lower darby/headwaters/cloud intersection. kids dig it. they feel like they're finding jewels.

call me cheap, but it kinda pains me to pay for the fall Gondi ride when we're a full season passers and are used to many free trips up. i feel season passers should ride free during harvest fest and like someone said before perhaps more would then go and drop additional coin at the harvest fest. we would go just for the gondi leaf peep and once there, i'm not cheap and would surely drop a c-note.

think i'll save a penny and say .........just my .01 worth.

Thanks. I've never made the harvest fest. I agree about the gondi ride - tough to justify as a passholder.

tom

you're welcome.

if it was a lower cost it wouldn't be so bad. last year we bought the family's full season passes at the harvest fest(~$1800.00), walked directly out to ride the gondi and it was i believe $40-50 for two of us to ascend.

I'll hike Dippikill for free (there's some very nive views there) and put to $40 toward dinner.

tom

pay $30 bring your bike and ride up and bike down all day long.

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mattchuck2 wrote:

Are they really making any money from regulars anyway?

excellent point. no doubt more of us local passers would then attend the fest. or they could include several/few free summer trips up if they feared it would be taken advantage of. more people in the 'hood = more cash spent that area. would be a good neighbor thing helping local businesses and no real dollars lost by Gore. people like my family would even bring the in-laws/freinds, who would by 2 gondi tiks, then even more people would be there dropping dollars.

Looking at the photos of the chopper on the Whiteface site...

http://www.whiteface.com/newsite/onmtn.php

...it looks like the colors are moving right along. Not sure when those pics where taken.

I'm one who likes it on the green side of peak. I think when the green is added in there is more variety and you've still got more leaves left up on the trees.

Due to work we had to put our week off until 9/19. For my taste, I'd rather be going up tomorrow.

Snowballs wrote:

excellent point. no doubt more of us local passers would then attend the fest. or they could include several/few free summer trips up if they feared it would be taken advantage of. more people in the 'hood = more cash spent that area. would be a good neighbor thing helping local businesses and no real dollars lost by Gore. people like my family would even bring the in-laws/freinds, who would by 2 gondi tiks, then even more people would be there dropping dollars.

I know a few business owners in NC. Gore is not a good neighbor. They overcharge for the ads in their brochures, they do minimal co-op marketing, they do not give season pass discounts to local businesses, and they are hard to deal with.

ORDA promotes the Village of Lake Placid as if it were part of ORDA........wait, I forgot, IT IS part of ORDA, or at least part of the ORDA Board of Directors.

"Come visit Lake Placid, Winter Capital of the East! Ski the Mighty Whiteface! Stay in the ORDA Lodges in downtown Lake Placid! Ride the money losing Bobsled! Ride an Elevator to the top of the money losing Ski Jump! By the way gore is like 200 miles from here , has no place to eat or sleep, and is sometimes closed on Sundays. It is Better To Stay Here In Lake Placid!"

There's your yearly ORDA marketing plan in a paragraph.

TomCat wrote:

Any recommendations on whether I'd be better off making a trip on 9/19 or 10/3 for foliage?

NY Weekly Foliage Report
http://fallgetaways.iloveny.com/foliage_report.html

Another one:
http://www.foliagenetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=34:northeast-us&Itemid=68&layout=default

I like following the foliage reports too. Though they don't seem to account for elevation. I guess it would be hard to do.

In any case looks like to me like NY beats VT for pure volume of color.

Can't tell if the peaks are dark because they are all evergreen or if the leaves were gone up top by the time that shot was taken.

Harvey44 wrote:

I like following the foliage reports too. Thought they don't seem to account for elevation. I guess it would be hard to do. In any case looks like to me like NY beats VT for pure volume of color. Can't tell if the peaks are dark because they are all evergreen or if the leaves were gone up top by the time that shot was taken.

awesome shot, thanks.

the ADKs have a nice, RICH color. interesting how ontario has such a wide swath of color. didn't know that.

Thanks for all the info. As usual my schedule (really my kids' schedules) will be making my decision for me and I likely will be heading up this weekend.

tom