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ComeBackMudPuddles
08-29-2007, 05:14 AM
http://www.goremountain.com/mountain/trailmap.htm

Harvey44
08-29-2007, 07:48 AM
Now THAT is news. Looks like the new trails may have implications for Twister and possible Tahawas glades. Not sure if that's good or not.

I'm headed up tomorrow - wonder if they'll get bent out of shape if I'm wandering back there? Does the Shaeffer go through there?

Harv

ComeBackMudPuddles
08-29-2007, 08:42 AM
Now THAT is news. Looks like the new trails may have implications for Twister and possible Tahawas glades. Not sure if that's good or not.

I'm headed up tomorrow - wonder if they'll get bent out of shape if I'm wandering back there? Does the Shaeffer go through there?

Harv

At the very least, it looks like the Twister Glades will be pretty much eliminated.

Also, just looking at the picture and not any topo maps, it looks like they could fit in a few more trails there. Especially since they're installing a HSQ....

Harvey44
08-29-2007, 09:11 AM
Boy I hope that's not true. But actually if they keep the trail all the way over on skiers left as you are in the glade, sort of up against that cliff, would there be some room for trees? Hope so. Maybe they'll add more glades on Burnt Ridge, he dreamed.

Danzilla
08-29-2007, 09:14 AM
Hey guys - I am new to the forum. I have been checking it out for a while, but finally decided to jump into the fray.

My wife and I were up a few weeks ago and they had signs up at the base saying that they were blasting for new trails. I hiked down twister earlier in the summer and they had a bunch of heavy equipment on the "backcountry" trail up to burnt ridge. If you venture up there during the week I'd wait until after working hours are over.

If you do go up take some pictures:)

Harvey44
08-29-2007, 09:37 AM
Danz - welcome - great first post thanks for the beta. I may have to be up during regular hours as I want to pick up my pass. Maybe I can push it til the end of day.

jimmer
08-29-2007, 05:25 PM
you can hike the hill pretty much any day as you see fit, just dont get hurt, it might be awhile before someone finds you. there running the gondi on weekends, ride up-walk down.

boy i hope they dont wreck twister glades, some of the best on the hill[imo].tahawas glades are even better just shorter. but heres a little secret, look for a new woods trail on the dark side. its legal and everthing, gonna have a steep pitch and even a few drops, should be sweet.

Harvey44
08-29-2007, 07:20 PM
LOVE the dark side. Woohoo!

NPN
08-29-2007, 09:05 PM
I can't remember seeing/hearing what level of terrain we're talkin' here.

Anyone got the skinny on how these trails are being rated difficulty wise, or, at least how the mountain is planning to do that ?

ComeBackMudPuddles
08-30-2007, 04:32 AM
I can't remember seeing/hearing what level of terrain we're talkin' here.

Anyone got the skinny on how these trails are being rated difficulty wise, or, at least how the mountain is planning to do that ?


"Scheduled to open in December 2008, Gore Mountain has begun developing one of its best pods of skiing and riding on Burnt Ridge Mountain. The terrain will feature five new trails, totaling approximately six miles. The Burnt Ridge expansion will increase Gore Mountain's vertical drop to 2,300' and add about 60 acres of skiing, with a blend of intermediate and expert terrain serviced by a high-speed quad. "


http://3w.skipressworld.com/news_detail~id~9019~regionId~1~languageId~1~sectio n~news~type~news~mode~read~filter~~sort~.php

NPN
08-30-2007, 02:05 PM
I can't remember seeing/hearing what level of terrain we're talkin' here.

Anyone got the skinny on how these trails are being rated difficulty wise, or, at least how the mountain is planning to do that ?


"Scheduled to open in December 2008, Gore Mountain has begun developing one of its best pods of skiing and riding on Burnt Ridge Mountain. The terrain will feature five new trails, totaling approximately six miles. The Burnt Ridge expansion will increase Gore Mountain's vertical drop to 2,300' and add about 60 acres of skiing, with a blend of intermediate and expert terrain serviced by a high-speed quad. "


http://3w.skipressworld.com/news_detail~id~9019~regionId~1~languageId~1~sectio n~news~type~news~mode~read~filter~~sort~.php

Thanks!

Harvey44
08-30-2007, 06:10 PM
From the TOPO some of it looks steeper than showcase so that is a start.

mattchuck2
08-30-2007, 06:18 PM
Haha, I was just going to post that!!!!

http://forums.skiadk.com/albums/album32/goretopo1.jpg

Harvey44
09-01-2007, 08:17 PM
If someone could PM me to tell me how to post a pic I'll do so. They aren't much - with my new 07/08 pass in hand, and no hiking signs everywhere, I sorta wimped out.

I think it's pretty darn exciting. While it does look like the Twister glades will only be a shadow of their former self - how cool is it to have black terrain added on the lower mountain, or anywhere for that matter.

THINK about how much better Gore gets every year. I think when it's all done we'll be pretty pysched.

Also I don't know jack about half pipes but I thought it looked pretty good too - not too flat - what the ideal slope for that?

Harv

NPN
09-01-2007, 08:46 PM
If someone could PM me to tell me how to post a pic I'll do so. They aren't much - with my new 07/08 pass in hand, and no hiking signs everywhere, I sorta wimped out.

I think it's pretty darn exciting. While it does look like the Twister glades will only be a shadow of their former self - how cool is it to have black terrain added on the lower mountain, or anywhere for that matter.

THINK about how much better Gore gets every year. I think when it's all done we'll be pretty pysched.

Also I don't know jack about half pipes but I thought it looked pretty good too - not too flat - what the ideal slope for that?

Harv

What about the wife's though?

Lbtchnlgs
09-01-2007, 09:00 PM
I do not mind at all the twister will be cut short. It's hard to find fresh snow in there even when they are closed, and it isn't steep enough anyway. Cannot wait to sample our new goodies :twisted:

Harvey44
09-02-2007, 08:58 AM
Ok I gave it my best shot. Hope these pics post.

Like I said, I didn't get very far up the mountain. I went down the dirt road to Gore E Gully. (Never even knew that was there.) Then I went to the top of GEG and beyond. It was flagged and made me wonder if that was going to be a trail too?

Anyway the more revealing photo is the one shot from the parking lot. You can "see" what they have timbered by a break in the trees.

It also looked like they had set up a temporary saw mill (?) or something at the bottom of the run.

Stoke ON!

Harv

NPN - I was solo, and they told me I couldn't pick up my wife's pass without her?






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NPN
09-02-2007, 08:24 PM
[quote="Harvey44"] I went down the dirt road to Gore E Gully. (Never even knew that was there.)

Had the same experience last season.

The nephew dragged me, and his kids down there one full moonlit night to do some sledding, and I couldn't believe no one had ever shown me that before.

So, do they still operate that area, or what?

mattchuck2
09-03-2007, 03:40 PM
Gore-E-Gully?

Yeah. They had the terrain park there for the last 3 (?) seasons.

It was decent for that purpose. Not steep enough, but at least it gave the park kids their own place to play with their own lift.

NPN
09-03-2007, 07:21 PM
Gore-E-Gully?

Yeah. They had the terrain park there for the last 3 (?) seasons.

It was decent for that purpose. Not steep enough, but at least it gave the park kids their own place to play with their own lift.

Are we talking about the same place, because it was flat as a pancake when I saw it at the end of February last season?

The spot I'm talking about was accessed by walking north behind the base lodge about a couple of hundred yards. It had it's own lift that definitely looked like it hadn't been run in a while.

mattchuck2
09-03-2007, 07:41 PM
I think so . . .

You can see it on the topo map I put on the previous page. It's north of the Base Lodge and it says "Ski Lift".

The lift was old, but they've been running it for the past few years. And yeah, the trail is flat. . .

NPN
09-03-2007, 08:13 PM
Still can't believe, after all of the time I've spent there over the years, I had no idea that was back there. Obviously, most of us are never going to use it, but still.

Lbtchnlgs
09-03-2007, 10:31 PM
Still can't believe, after all of the time I've spent there over the years, I had no idea that was back there. Obviously, most of us are never going to use it, but still.

Speak for yourself! I hope to work my way up to that slope this season, I think I'll graduate the rope-tow by week 2 this season. Hopefully they will be able to slow down the lift for me on my first go

NPN
09-03-2007, 10:47 PM
Still can't believe, after all of the time I've spent there over the years, I had no idea that was back there. Obviously, most of us are never going to use it, but still.

Speak for yourself! I hope to work my way up to that slope this season, I think I'll graduate the rope-tow by week 2 this season. Hopefully they will be able to slow down the lift for me on my first go

Everybody's a comedian on Labor Day!

Lbtchnlgs
09-03-2007, 11:29 PM
Damn I gotta start posting more in here, NPN you are about to catch up to me. (posts)

NPN
09-04-2007, 01:25 PM
Damn I gotta start posting more in here, NPN you are about to catch up to me. (posts)

Don't worry, the season's almost here, so everybody will have more to say. Anyway, you know the overused cliche, it's quality not quantity, that counts.

Lbtchnlgs
09-04-2007, 06:11 PM
Damn I gotta start posting more in here, NPN you are about to catch up to me. (posts)

Don't worry, the season's almost here, so everybody will have more to say. Anyway, you know the overused cliche, it's quality not quantity, that counts.

you sly dog

09-06-2007, 11:27 AM
At the very least, it looks like the Twister Glades will be pretty much eliminated.

Also, just looking at the picture and not any topo maps, it looks like they could fit in a few more trails there. Especially since they're installing a HSQ....

That is not good news. Eliminated no, but opened, unisolated, more or less useless, you bet ya.

adkman656
09-11-2007, 04:13 PM
to get to the bottom of Burnt Ridge hike down past "gore e gully" lift and keep going on the work road towards Gore's lower compressor house. The base of the new lift up Burnt ridge will be on your left...can't miss it...pretty impressive looking up the mountain! Don't do it during the day, they'll ask you to leave cause they really are blasting some stuff where towers are going to go, etc...

I looked at their plans and talked to a couple of patrollers.... the new lift is 6800 feet give or take a couple of feet, and about 1750 vertical. compared to showcase chair which is 7200 feet long lift but only 1400 vertical...that means a little shorter length but more vertical so the trails will be nice length and steeper in general... with some good pitches according to the topos! Patrol said the lift has to be engineered and that takes about 18 months, so thats why it won't be installed this year.

NPN
09-11-2007, 04:53 PM
I looked at their plans and talked to a couple of patrollers.... the new lift is 6800 feet give or take a couple of feet, and about 1750 vertical. compared to showcase chair which is 7200 feet long lift but only 1400 vertical...that means a little shorter length but more vertical so the trails will be nice length and steeper in general... with some good pitches according to the topos! Patrol said the lift has to be engineered and that takes about 18 months, so thats why it won't be installed this year.

Thanks for that. I knew if I was patient somebody would come up with some stats even I could understand.

Adk Keith
09-26-2007, 07:33 AM
My daughter and I took a walk down the new lift line on Burnt Ridge this weekend. It's got some great potential, not just in the trail but in the adjoining woods. There is a lot of potential there. The trail in general starts off fairly flat, then drops off the top of the ridge and gets steeper.

The bottom 1/3 is still covered with felled trees so skiers this year will have to make their way into the trees, skier's right, before that, (which they would want to anyway so as not to get stuck down below Gorey Gully). I was surprised at how far below Gorey Gully the bottom of the lift is. Seemed like we were almost down to Peaceful Vally Rd.

Harvey44
09-26-2007, 08:04 AM
Hey Keith - was thinking of taking the baby up the Gondi this weekend to see the leaves - think you can see much from there or the top of bear?

Adk Keith
09-26-2007, 08:54 AM
Hey Keith - was thinking of taking the baby up the Gondi this weekend to see the leaves - think you can see much from there or the top of bear?

Leaf Peeper's Views were good even at the Gondi. I'll post a pic looking SW from the top of Rumor, when I get home. On the mountain itself, I think the leaves were slightly past peak.

Best view of the new lift line is either from the new housing developement on Peacefull Vally Road or the Summit condo's upper level.

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Danzilla
10-09-2007, 10:34 AM
Spent the afternoon up at the mountain on Saturday and had a few beers on the deck. It wasn't the brewfest, but the brews were tasty. Lots more folks up there than I remember last year.

Took one of the last gondi rides up and hiked down ruby to twister to the work road (old backcountry access) and up to burnt ridge. I took some pretty good pictures - I'll try to post them tonight. The work road goes up and down and wraps around the back side of the top of the ridge so I don't think they will be using that for any trails unless they double it back towards the ski bowl. It looks like they have three main trails cut so far - two off the top and one that splits off the main lift line trail further down and goes towards the base (maybe the pic harvey posted earlier). The other trail off the top heads in the general direction of twister and has a green pitch. Only walked about a 1/4 mile down that trail as we were really interested in the main lift line trail. The lift line trail does start off fairly flat but there are quite a few pitch changes. It was wider than I expected (wild air width at least). There are a few places where they cut two lines in the trees - one for the lift (with rocky cliffs) and one for the skier.). The third trail broke towards the right at about the bottom third of the trail towards the base. I am a bit confused by that one cause it isn't on the new lift map. The bottom 600 feet of the trail is pretty steep and there are felled trees all over the place. I hope they clear them before winter or it is going to be rough going. The trail that breaks right might be a better bet. It will definately be worth the hike when we get a dump.

They have been hard at work up there - I was really amazed at how much they have done this summer. I got a cool picture from peaceful valley road too - it looks really steep from there.

Danzilla
10-10-2007, 09:38 PM
Here's a few for starters - camera died before I could transfer all the images. I'll post a few more in a day or two.

Enjoy!


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Denison
10-10-2007, 09:46 PM
good pictures, thanks

Danzilla
10-11-2007, 09:49 AM
Well I some how screwed up the captions on the second and third pictures from the end. The third from the end is obviously looking down the trail, not back up (about 600 feet down). The second from the bottom (the blurry one) is maybe a 1/4 of the way down. There is a pretty steep pitch right where the trees are in the middle of the trail. The left has a few cliffs and looks unskiable (at least for me:) - maybe where the lift towers will go? The right is skiable with a nice steep pitch similar to the bottom of twister before it flattens out again.

Danzilla
10-15-2007, 09:10 PM
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ComeBackMudPuddles
10-16-2007, 05:40 AM
Awesome shots. Thanks for taking the time.