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Cliff
11-18-2008, 12:40 PM
Not trying to start a war by any means.

Can someone tell me why WF is installing a fixed triple?

faceridr
11-18-2008, 12:54 PM
The way it was explained to me it went like this: they chose fixed over detach probably for cost/icing/wind reasons. The summit quad (fixed grip) is closed often enough for wind and icing as it is. They went with a triple over a quad because they can run the line speed faster on the triple (not sure why that is but it probably has to do with loading/unloading and motor power). Given how slow the summit quad is and how often it stops on a weekend I'm pretty stoked on a triple! Not too mention it keeps slope traffic down a bit too.

takeahike46er
11-18-2008, 05:54 PM
When Lookout was proposed in 2004, the plans called for the lift to be a fixed double. After the trail plans were reworked in 2006, the lift was changed to a fixed triple. It likely changed due to capacity concerns.

I would have preferred the double in order to limit skier density, but a fixed triple is a good compromise.

ComeBackMudPuddles
11-19-2008, 09:14 AM
A double was probably sufficient for the terrain and needed uphill capacity, but, really, could they have gotten away with that from a PR perspective?

Who installs double chairs these days as part of a major expansion?

The triple was the bare minimum....Which isn't to say that it won't be more than enough.

11-19-2008, 10:25 AM
A double was probably sufficient for the terrain and needed uphill capacity, but, really, could they have gotten away with that from a PR perspective?

Who installs double chairs these days as part of a major expansion?

The triple was the bare minimum....Which isn't to say that it won't be more than enough.

The way it was explained to me is that the size and capacity of the chair is based on the skiable acreage. Skiable acreage should be limited to a certain number of skiers for safety. This is only a rough guideline and most ski areas ignor it because the bottom line is they want to make their customers happy by not waiting in line for 45 min. (like at most ski areas in Vermont) and make more money throught increased capacity.
Overall bottom line for the state is budget (price) and a fixed grip is alot less money than a detachable. It's also alot less maintenance because it's a simpler chair.
I think we are lucky to have any chair at all with the states budget.

highpeaksdrifter
11-19-2008, 10:51 AM
A double was probably sufficient for the terrain and needed uphill capacity, but, really, could they have gotten away with that from a PR perspective?

Who installs double chairs these days as part of a major expansion?

The triple was the bare minimum....Which isn't to say that it won't be more than enough.

The way it was explained to me is that the size and capacity of the chair is based on the skiable acreage. Skiable acreage should be limited to a certain number of skiers for safety. This is only a rough guideline and most ski areas ignor it because the bottom line is they want to make their customers happy by not waiting in line for 45 min. (like at most ski areas in Vermont) and make more money throught increased capacity.
Overall bottom line for the state is budget (price) and a fixed grip is alot less money than a detachable. It's also alot less maintenance because it's a simpler chair.
I think we are lucky to have any chair at all with the states budget.

For sure, both WF and Gore lucked out with the timing.

Adirondackskier
11-19-2008, 10:53 AM
I just watched the Lookout Mountain Triple load test yesterday......the lift is pretty sweet!

snowman
11-19-2008, 12:25 PM
http://adirondackdailyenterprise.com/page/content.detail/id/503587.html?nav=5008

Glad to see it is this far along!

Denison
11-19-2008, 05:04 PM
http://adirondackdailyenterprise.com/photos/news/lg/503587_1.jpg

Lbtchnlgs
11-19-2008, 05:33 PM
http://adirondackdailyenterprise.com/photos/news/lg/503587_1.jpg

that looks a lot like the base of Topridge at Gore

nyspnypd
11-19-2008, 05:45 PM
http://adirondackdailyenterprise.com/photos/news/lg/503587_1.jpg

that looks a lot like the base of Topridge at Gore

It does but it isn't. GREAT to see snow up there!!! :D

CUskibum
11-19-2008, 09:28 PM
http://adirondackdailyenterprise.com/photos/news/lg/503587_1.jpg

that looks a lot like the base of Topridge at Gore

It does but it isn't. GREAT to see snow up there!!! :D

As long as its not as slow as Topridge, then its fine by me. 8)

nyspnypd
11-19-2008, 09:48 PM
http://adirondackdailyenterprise.com/photos/news/lg/503587_1.jpg

that looks a lot like the base of Topridge at Gore

It does but it isn't. GREAT to see snow up there!!! :D

As long as its not as slow as Topridge, then its fine by me. 8)

Agree. Every time I go up it I feel like I am walking up it. Any way they can speed it up?

Snowballs
12-15-2008, 12:46 PM
For sure, both WF and Gore lucked out with the timing.[/quote]

amen. just try and get either of these projects passed now. they'ld laugh at it. we've proly seen the last major improvements for sometime. thank God these two are in progress and are actually great areas!!!