Gore Mountain Weather 08/09 Part 2

[Harvey44]

Looks like we hit the limit ...ten pages per thread. So I started a new one:

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[MidnightCarving]

yeah harv, i'm sure you've heard by now, but we got some NCP before on top of about 3" last night, it switched back to snow around 4:30 though and its still going lightly, lets hope for the best..

[megatron]

The snow line between serious crust , and rippable pow was half way down Snoopy's :roll:

C

[mattchuck2]

Haha, nice . . .

This is good, though . . . . Run a groomer over that crust, and it becomes nice eastern packed . . . (provided we don't go super super cold and ice everything up again).

[MidnightCarving]

yeah, im with you gents, i call it eastern basemaker. that thick wet icy snow will freeze up and stay all season... i'm willing to sacrifice tomorrow's icy conditions for the sake of the rest of the season. twister glades today were pretty fun actually, crust-buster conditions, not ideal, but it was fun no-less....

as my dad used to always say, "those western skiers think they're good skiing powder all the time... us skiers in the east are the REAL skiers, we know how to make fun of every kind of condition."

[Harvey44]

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[Snowballs]

is that a smile? a snow smile?

[Harvey44]

Comedy. :D

This should probably have been posted first:

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Late Afternoon: A chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 12. Calm wind. Chance of precipitation is 30%. Total daytime snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.

Tonight: Snow, mainly after 1am. Low around 6. Wind chill values as low as -1. Light east wind. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New snow accumulation of 3 to 5 inches possible.

Sunday: Snow likely, mainly before noon. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 20. Wind chill values as low as -2. North wind between 3 and 7 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible.

At 10 degrees or whatever it is up there...that out to be some cold smoke fallin up there:

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[megatron]

6" of Blower at Megatron HQ. Come and get it kiddies :D

C


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[Harvey44]

Mtn posted 8" at 8:30 am. Must have kept snowing after at Megatrons report.

Closin in on 100" for the season:

http://harvey44.blogspot.com/2008/12/megaharv-gore-snow-totals.html

It kills me to be stuck in MASH with work when you guys are thrashin it.

Looks like one of those days when the trail report is simple: "Kill Kare closed."

My kingdom for some details and a pic or two.

[tommy5402]

Yea pics please....getting psyched for next weekend :D

[Harvey44]

It's ALL good. If you like it cold. I do:

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[Harvey44]

Looking like a good year so far:

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[Harvey44]

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[Harvey44]

WEDS - FRI from NWS:

GIVEN THE RELATIVE FLIP-FLOPPING OF GUIDANCE FROM ONE RUN TO THE NEXT...IT MAY BE PRE-MATURE TO INSIST THAT WINTER STORM WATCHES WILL BE NEEDED FOR MUCH OF OUR AREA...BUT THE CHANCES APPEAR QUITE HIGH
RIGHT NOW. TOTAL GFS QPFS ARE AN INCH OR MORE ACROSS MOST OF THE SOUTHERN AND EASTERN ZONES. A SECOND LOW PRESSURE WAVE ALONG THE SOUTHERN FRONT COMBINES WITH THE FIRST ONE...OFF THE NC COAST THU
NGT...BRINGING THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE SNOW FRI AND FRI NGT...THOUGH THIS LOOKS LESS IMPRESSIVE AS THE SYSTEM WILL ALREADY BE MOVING ALONG.

[Harvey44]

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY
627 AM EST MON JAN 26 2009

.SYNOPSIS...
OUR COLD WEATHER WILL CONTINUE. A SIGNIFICANT SNOW STORM IS POSSIBLE MID WEEK AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM APPROACHES FROM THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY.


(Looks a little south to be ideal for us now, but anything can happen. Should get something out of it.)

[JC7727]

looks like a nice 8 inch storm for Gore at this point in time.

[Harvey44]

It's UP:

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY
1137 AM EST MON JAN 26 2009

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM LATE TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN ALBANY HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM LATE TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING FOR ALL OF EASTERN NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND.

A STORM DEVELOPING OVER THE SOUTHWEST UNITED STATES IS EXPECTED TO TRACK NORTHEAST TOWARD THE REGION TUESDAY NIGHT. SNOW ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO SPREAD FROM SOUTHWEST TO NORTHEAST OVERNIGHT AND MAY BECOME HEAVY AT TIMES WEDNESDAY MORNING.

SNOWFALL AMOUNTS BY WEDNESDAY NIGHT COULD RANGE BETWEEN 6 AND 12 INCHES...WITH THE HIGHER TOTALS ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN.

[MidnightCarving]

looks like i may be making a trip back from school.... jeeze i've only been here a week and im looking for excuses to spend money i dont have.

[fujative.]

what a convenient time to not have school for the next 6 days :)

[mattchuck2]

Mmmmmm . . . . .

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I'll be up on Thursday!

[Spongeworthy]

I'll be up on Thursday!So tempting :D

This from weather.noaa.gov:

WEDNESDAY NIGHT
SNOW IN THE EVENING...THEN A CHANCE OF SNOW AFTER
MIDNIGHT. TOTAL SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 8 TO 16 INCHES. NOT AS COOL
WITH LOWS AROUND 14. NORTHEAST WINDS 5 TO 10 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO
25 MPH...INCREASING TO WEST 15 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 35 MPH
AFTER MIDNIGHT. CHANCE OF SNOW NEAR 100 PERCENT.

[megatron]

1" of Blower at megatron HQ :D

[Adk Keith]

Mmmmmm . . . . .

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I'll be up on Thursday!

Me too!

Me too!

[Lbtchnlgs]

send some to the rockies, please.

[SnowSnake]

Any storm updates from those lucky enough to make it to the mountain today? Those of us chained behind a desk this week would love to live vicariously through your stories of powder glory!!

[Snowballs]

heeeeeeey ! Where's our very own Skiing Weatherman ? he hasn't posted on this thread since Monday.

10 inches here. Later, i'll check the snow depth. but it's still snowing hard. light and fluffy. no sleet etc. so far.

Yo Harv.........IT'S SNOWING HERE ! ( Lake George area )

[Harvey44]

I'm sick and cranky. I haven't skied since freakin Jan 3, traveling on business and getting sick. If I can't get up there in the next few days my head will explode.

This is going to be an epic dump. :lol:

[Snowballs]

i thought so. i was gonna add a joke that " i hope he's not in a depression ".

hope you feel better ASAP and can come up and ski.

in the meantime, can we use your cabin for a keg party ? Kegatron said he'll bring the beer if i bring the chicks - could be epic. we'll post pics !

Hey everybody - KEG PARTY AT HARV'S !!!

Do your best to weather your low.

[megatron]

Kegatron was at least 20 years ago :D

[Snowballs]

Kegatron was at least 20 years ago :D

Oh ! Well I guess if we're gonna trash Harv's place, we could at least drink Merlot. I'll have to do a serious upgrade on the chicks though.........to one's with teeth.

Is the key still under the mat Harv ?

[skimore]

wtf is with there snow report? Reporting snow for the last 7 days and thats it. The thing is dated for Thursday already. How about telling us how much they got today.......worst snow report in the industry

[Snowballs]

wtf is with there snow report? Reporting snow for the last 7 days and thats it. The thing is dated for Thursday already. How about telling us how much they got today.......worst snow report in the industry

I absolutely, positively agree. it's getting ridiculous. last friday night they posted "checkout the skiercross and halfpipe at the ski bowl ". So we went there Saturday and IT WAS FREEGIN CLOSED !!! NOOOOOOOOOBODY THERE!!! WHAT A JOKE!!! The kids were really disappointed. i mean really, why tell us to go there, when it's not even gonna be running. i'll bet 10 bucks it didn't open sunday either- but it was advertised. it's like they deliberately jerk us around. they post crap to make themselves look good and it turns out to be lies. we got the worst terrain park in all of New England.

The question is what are we gonna do about it ?

i sent the slackers a strong email today complaining about these issues. if you guys agree, then get writing. we need to show we have some balls and make phone calls to our elected officials. regardless of the cynics, politicans respond to angry constituents. get on the phone and get bitchin.

IF WE TAKE THEIR BS WITHOUT RAISING HELL, THEN WE DESERVE THE CRAP THEY SERVE US.

DO YOU SAY " THANK YOU SIR. MAY I HAVE ANOTHER. " ?

[megatron]

Kegatron was at least 20 years ago :D

Oh ! Well I guess if we're gonna trash Harv's place, we could at least drink Merlot. I'll have to do a serious upgrade on the chicks though.........to one's with teeth.

Is the key still under the mat Harv ?

Oh No! Beer is fine. I am just more refined now, and I prefer my miller lite out of a can! :D

[megatron]

wtf is with there snow report? Reporting snow for the last 7 days and thats it. The thing is dated for Thursday already. How about telling us how much they got today.......worst snow report in the industry

That's because it is written with the help of emily's crystal ball, and posted around 3:30 the day before!

And Snowballs, what time did you get to the ski bowl on saturday night? They are usually there till 9pm. The boarderscross thing was on sunday. Not bitchin', just wonderin'.

[Harvey44]

Gore had 2 inches in last seven so 10" from this. GHL is reporting 11.

[Snowballs]

10 am Saturday. the web posting friday night said nothing about any specific time/day.........it just said check it out. if they're gonna post that way Em needs to lend out crystal balls to all so we can decipher their BS.

the sun is out and the wind seems low, so i'm off to the mtn. maybe i can catch one of these Gumps up there and can have a heart to heart talk with them.

[Danzilla]

Our next door neighbor in NC said they had at least a foot at 6pm yesterday. She said that it was still coming down, but starting to slow down a bit. How hard is it to update the snow report? They get the updated sheet every morning? I also don't understand the last couple weekends they have had the pipeline trail open on the sheet and online. I asked one of the north quad lifties about it and he said it was open last saturday for 1 1/2 hours. Why not open it up? I know its not a great trail, but I would still like to hit it one of these days.

The other updates to the website are ridiculous too. I think the skier/boardercross announcement was for the competition that was held the weekend before - the night of the AFC/NFC games. I know I saw an anouncement about checking that out at least 3-4 days AFTER it had already happened. What happened to the 45th anniversary celabration? That was posted on the website a few weeks ago and then it just disappeared. They were supposed to have fireworks and another torch light parade.

Gore is a great mountain but I just continue to think that they do things 75-80% of the way. Very frustrating.

Hope whoever gets out there today is loving it. I kept dreaming of sagamore powder last night. Too bad I'm not going to be up for a few weeks!

[skimore]

Gore had 2 inches in last seven so 10" from this. GHL is reporting 11.

So if you didn't look at the report on the previuos day you would have no idea on how much snow they got. Absolutely a clueless person doing the reporting.

[Harvey44]

I didn't say it wasn't challenged, just trying to help.

[Jeff]

What happened up at the mtn today / last night? I skied yesterday (Sat) and thought the woods were great despite a week + of minimal new snow. Hardly hit any trails, so I don't really know how they were although what I was on seemed decent. But the big question is how much was the mtn affected by the warm up overnight and today? Was anyone in the woods today? Update on conditions please...

[DJG21]

What happened up at the mtn today / last night? I skied yesterday (Sat) and thought the woods were great despite a week + of minimal new snow. Hardly hit any trails, so I don't really know how they were although what I was on seemed decent. But the big question is how much was the mtn affected by the warm up overnight and today? Was anyone in the woods today? Update on conditions please...

It was very special!

The top was closed for most of the day due to the yellow ice -- not even blue ice but that special shade of yellow you see when man made snow thaws and refreezes. It was warm at the bottom, but sub-freezing at the summit, and things got very, very bad. There was some rain on Saturday night too. The woods were no go. I was told by a member of the Patrol that the Caves (which were closed) were suitable for ice climbing.

The North Chair and Burnt Ridge were closed all day. Sagamore was fun on Saturday, but apparently got killed by the thaw. Everyone was skiing a couple runs on the bottom of the mountain (showcase, sleeping bear, etc), and as for trees, there was Otter slide.

Things were very bleak, and the weather does not look good for this week. Gore needs snow, or at least an opportunity to make some, very badly.

[JC7727]

with rain in the forecast its not looking good. Some chance for snow on Fri but looks light

[Jeff]

Ugh. Thanks for the update. That's about what I expected, maybe a bit worse. Today's snow report on the Gore website: frozen granular surfaces + minimal woods + no Dark Side = Not Good. :(

[Frostillicus]

The conditions were brutal over the weekend, did anything soften up in the sun today?

[tommy5402]

Going to be up for pres weekend....not really what I wanted to be reading :(

[jimmer]

The conditions were brutal over the weekend, did anything soften up in the sun today? skiing was pretty good 2day,the top was better than the bottom,where they groomed was good,sun was out,good day.as for the rest of the week we will just have to wait and see.

[Snowballs]

this warm weather sucks! the forecast shows some 50+ degree sunnies w/above freezing nights. wouldn't take many of those( or even warm rain ones) to create major bare spots, maybe even trial breakers. what if it hits 60+ degrees? WTF!*


* where's the freeze?

GET AL GORE ON THE PHONE!!!

[Harvey44]

Long range from KALB:

CHANCE SNOW POPS BEGINNING WEDNESDAY ALL ZONES AND LASTING THROUGH THURSDAY...BUT BOTH GFS AND ECMWF BRING THE ZERO DEGREE LINE UP TO JUST SOUTH OF THE CAPITAL DISTRICT BY WED NGT...SO WE MUST FIGURE
THIS COULD WIND UP BEING ANOTHER WINTRY-MIXED EVENT...AT LEAST FOR THE SOUTHERN ZONES. TOO EARLY TO PLACE MUCH FAITH IN THIS. AFTER ALL...THE LAST 24 HOURS HAVE SEEN A BIG SWING IN THE TRACK OF THIS SYSTEM. WILL STICK WITH SNOW FOR NOW.

[Snowballs]

Long range from KALB:

CHANCE SNOW POPS BEGINNING WEDNESDAY ALL ZONES AND LASTING THROUGH THURSDAY...BUT BOTH GFS AND ECMWF BRING THE ZERO DEGREE LINE UP TO JUST SOUTH OF THE CAPITAL DISTRICT BY WED NGT...SO WE MUST FIGURE
THIS COULD WIND UP BEING ANOTHER WINTRY-MIXED EVENT...AT LEAST FOR THE SOUTHERN ZONES. TOO EARLY TO PLACE MUCH FAITH IN THIS. AFTER ALL...THE LAST 24 HOURS HAVE SEEN A BIG SWING IN THE TRACK OF THIS SYSTEM. WILL STICK WITH SNOW FOR NOW.

HEY!!! WHO'S THE NEW GUY???^^^

[Harvey44]

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[GoofyRider]

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please please please

[Harvey44]

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY
413 PM EST SAT FEB 14 2009

.LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/...

LOW PRESSURE OVER ILLINOIS WEDNESDAY MORNING WILL BE CENTERED OVER EAST CENTRAL NEW YORK AND WESTERN NEW ENGLAND THURSDAY MORNING. GFS BRINGS THE ZERO DEGREE LINE UP TO AROUND THE CAPITAL REGION WED NGT...BUT BY 700 IT IS WELL BELOW FREEZING SOUTH TO NEW JERSEY ...IN THE ADIRONDACKS AND LAKE GEORGE REGION...IT LOOKS LIKE MAINLY SNOW.

ANOTHER LOW EXPECTED TO DEVELOP OVER THE NORTH CENTRAL STATES IS PROGGED TO BE CENTERED OVER INDIANA SATURDAY MORNING... BRINGING THE NEXT GOOD CHANCE FOR PRECIP. MODELS RIGHT NOW HINT AT ALL SNOW...WITH SEVERAL INCHES POSSIBLE.

[B SMACKER]

C'mon boys & girls, pray for the white stuff!!!!! I'm headed up next Saturday for the 1st time this year!! Some new freshies would be superb!!! See ya all next weekend.

[Harvey44]

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[Spongeworthy]

C'mon boys & girls, pray for the white stuff!!!!! I'm headed up next Saturday for the 1st time this year!! Some new freshies would be superb!!! See ya all next weekend.Our prayers just might be answered.

From noaa.gov for Northern Warren County:

WEDNESDAY
MOSTLY CLOUDY. SNOW IN THE AFTERNOON. SNOW ACCUMULATION
UP TO AN INCH. HIGHS IN THE LOWER 30S. SOUTH WINDS 5 TO 10 MPH.
CHANCE OF SNOW 80 PERCENT.

WEDNESDAY NIGHT
SNOW. ADDITIONAL SNOW ACCUMULATION OF 3 TO
6 INCHES...BUT 4 TO 8 INCHES ABOVE 1000 FEET. NOT AS COOL. NEAR
STEADY TEMPERATURE IN THE UPPER 20S. SOUTHEAST WINDS 5 TO 10
MPH...BECOMING EAST AFTER MIDNIGHT. CHANCE OF SNOW 90 PERCENT.

[B SMACKER]

C'mon baby keep it comin' !!!!! It's lookin' good!!!!

From Accuweather:

An Alberta Clipper is forecast to dive into the northern Plains on Friday then spread its snow over the Midwest and Northeast this weekend.

The clipper will be closely monitored the next several days since the potential exists for a secondary area of low pressure to develop along its cold front. After taking shape across the Gulf Coast, that low could race up the Eastern Seaboard with substantial snow.

Even if the secondary storm fails to develop, a moderate snowfall seems likely for a populated area of the Midwest Friday into Saturday and is a possibility for the East Saturday into Sunday.

[Harvey44]

Most positive stuff I could find:

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY
637 PM EST WED FEB 25 2009

.LONG TERM /SATURDAY THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...

LOTS OF UNCERTAINTY REGARDING THE WEEKEND FORECAST ...AND THE INCONSISTENCIES ...MAKE THIS A DIFFICULT AND LOW CONFIDENCE FORECAST.

THE ECMWF SHOWS A DEEP TROUGH OVER THE EAST DEVELOPING A SURFACE LOW ACROSS THE SOUTH BY SATURDAY MORNING AND MOVING TO THE DELMARVA COAST BY SUNDAY MORNING. WITH PHASING BETWEEN THE THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN STREAMS OCCURRING...THIS WOULD CUT OFF THIS SYSTEM...SLOWING DOWN THE MOVEMENT OF THE STORM AND KEEPING IT HANGING AROUND THROUGH MONDAY.

THE IMPACT ON OUR WEATHER WOULD BE A PROLONGED PERIOD OF SNOW BEGINNING WITH A PERIOD OF MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOWFALL ON SATURDAY NIGHT...WITH SNOW OCCURRING FOR SUNDAY AND INTO MOST OF MONDAY AS WELL. THIS WOULD RESULT IN A HIGH IMPACT SNOWFALL ACROSS MUCH OF THE CWA.

[Harvey44]

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[Harvey44]

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY
437 PM EDT WED MAR 11 20

.LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/...

HPC GUIDANCE. JUST ONE ISSUE THIS PERIOD...NEXT WEEK`S STORM...WHEN WILL IT BE...WHAT WILL IT BE...WILL IT EVEN BE?

THE GFS DEEPENS A LOW FROM CENTRAL CANADA AS IT SWINGS ACROSS SOUTHEAST CANADA TO NORTHERN MAINE THROUGH WEDNESDAY...WITH A SECONDARY LOW DEEPENING OFF THE CAROLINAS COAST.

THE ECMWF DOESN`T REALLY DEVELOP A CANADIAN LOW...BUT DEEPENS A LOW OFF THE CAROLINAS AS IT CHURNS UP THE COAST TO AFFECT OUR AREA LATER INTO THE WEEK INSTEAD. EITHER SCENARIO LENDS ITSELF TO A DELAYED
ARRIVAL OF PRECIP.

THE GFS OFFERS UP NO MORE THAN ABOUT 0.25 INCH QPFS TUESDAY NIGHT AND WEDNESDAY. THE ECMWF BRINGS IN NO SIGNIFICANT PRECIP UNTIL LATER WEDNESDAY...WITH MORE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS SAVED FOR THE SOUTHEAST ZONES LATE IN THE WORK WEEK

...IT`S TOO EARLY TO PREDICT A WEATHER TYPE...BUT THE GFS SOLUTION WOULD OFFER UP A MIX OF MAINLY RAIN AND SNOW...WITH THE LATTER RESERVED MAINLY FOR THE NIGHTTIME PERIODS.

TEMPERATURES WILL BE AVERAGING JUST A FEW DEGREES BELOW NORMAL...WITH NO BIG DAILY SWINGS EXPECTED. MEX HIGHS ARE QUITE A BIT WARMER...BUT IS IT CONSIDERING THE TYPICALLY COOL LATE WINTER EASTERLY MARITIME FLOW???

[Lbtchnlgs]

New ADK weather website:

http://www.adkwx.com/

Haven't checked it out yet- but saw it over on adkforum.

[Harvey44]

Thanks Chris. It is bookmarked and I will watch it.

[Snowballs]

channel 9 news just reported a weather spotter in Old Forge got 6 inches of new snow.

[Jason in CP]

New ADK weather website:

http://www.adkwx.com/

Haven't checked it out yet- but saw it over on adkforum.

There's some decent hiking pics on his site....

[Snowballs]

3 more months. frost advisory for tonight. lows in the 30's this week.

soon it's apple pickin at Hick's! the apples are extra large this year. the last time that happened the Macintoshes had unbelievable flavor. word. i smell pie!

if you go, their apple cider wine is truly great, award winning. you may even see Racheal Ray on her annual visit.

[Snowballs]

then there's this:

http://www.rr.com/news/news/article/6588394/8790730/Farmers_Almanac_predicts_numbing_cold_this_winter

i'm on Ben Franklin's side. people from Pennsylvania can be very insightful. His ideas and wisdom still serve us and can still be found even in odd places like bathroom graffiti.........

" older women don't tell, they don't swell and they're gratefull as hell "..... is a variant of one of his sayings.

Old Ben was a hound. Here Kitty.