Suggestion Box

[highpeaksdrifter]

If Whiteface had a suggestion box what suggestions for improvements, changes, additions, etc. would you like to see for next season? Please keep comments constructive and civil.

You never know who reads ski forums. You might have an idea that gets picked up.

[highpeaksdrifter]

Skyward is a great trail and a very important trail at our mountain. That said, Upper Cloudspin (IMO) is the best trail on the mountain. Most people I know prefer it to Skyward.

This season Upper Cloudspin was hardly open at all. I do know that part of the reason why was problems with the snow making equipment on it.

Here’s are my take for Upper Cloudspin:

Next season blow snowmaking on UCS first
I understand it makes accessing Lower Skyward a little harder, but it’s still doable. When UCS is open my crew either uses Lower Switchback or a hard left turn and skate up to get to Lower Sky all the time.

UCS could have been open a lot more this season with just the natural snow it got.
Even in the spring when the middle was brown, the sides where very skiable. Put up a thin cover sign when skier safety is not a concern and let people decide for themselves.

There may be several reasons that I am not privy to why this suggestion makes no sense from a management standpoint, but why not through it out there for forum discussion?

Next

[Denison]

Well, first another great thread by HPD. You are always start best discussions on AZ, so my first item in the Suggestion box would be

1) HighPeaksDrifter, start you best threads here instead of A.Z.

2) Please, always run Freeway lift on weekends. Parkway and Thruway are best enjoyed all way to the Lower Valley.

3) Make a note of bottleneck spots where snow melts faster in late March / April and make some extra snow (should not take much) in order to keep more trails open into April. Lower Skyward would be an example, when I had to walk few feet on grass to get from Pumphouse thru shortcut to Lower Sky.

[tjf67]

They could use more bartenders in the afternoons. Not that I am there often.

[nyspnypd]

My opinion and this will cost some big bucks but I still stand on putting wind turbines in at whiteface you could be completely off the grid and even make some money. other than that nothing I could really think of.

[NPN]

Somebody needs to find a way to get those GREAT cameo appearances by someone other than BUTTWIDENER back in the lounge.

Not a day goes by on the weekend that I don't have to hear a customer ask, "What happened to the three Sams?", or, "What happened to the Yegermeister ( sp ) Girls?", or, "Why doesn't Lake Placid Pub 'n Brewery do tastings up here anymore?", etc., etc. etc..

Centerplate is turning the lounge into a retirement facility. What needs to be done to make it fun again???

[takeahike46er]

UCS could have been open a lot more this season with just the natural snow it got.
Even in the spring when the middle was brown, the sides where very skiable. Put up a thin cover sign when skier safety is not a concern and let people decide for themselves.
Next

I agree with this statement, but I would extend this philosophy to the rest of the mountain. It seems that Whiteface management is reluctant to open terrain with thin cover. Open up UCS and Empire more often and let the skier's decide whether they are worth banging up some skis over. I've skied these trails when they are closed a number of times and coverage has been fantastic.

* Open up the Freeway liftline to skiing. Gore has utilized its liftlines for cheap terrain expansions to great effect. Whiteface should do the same. There appears to be a small amount of mileage leftover anyways.

* If Hoyt's has snowmaking on it next season, keep it ungroomed.

* Build up a better base on Lookout so that it can last longer into the spring. With its southern exposure, spring skiing is fantastic on that side of the mountain.

* Open Lookout before the Summit.

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

Suggestion for Web site: it seems that WF did a much better job this year updating the "photo of the day", but I would suggest that the webmaster make the archive available for viewing (like Gore does).

[SKIdds]

How about some good Buffalo Wings at the bar? Really, the Cloudspin Lounge needs some attention. The beer is decent and it's a nice place to get a drink, but the food selections is inadequate. Beer and wings at the end of a hard ski day hit the spot.

PS - the bar in the Gore base lodge has really good wings.

[CUskibum]

I've got a couple things:

1) Open the pipe sometime before mid-January.

2) Run the freeway lift on weekends. It will help spread the crowds around more.

and if Whiteface somehow gets enough money to put snowmaking on Hoyts,

3) Keep Hoyts ungroomed. Nice bump runs are always enjoyed...

[nyspnypd]

I've got a couple things:

1) Open the pipe sometime before mid-January.

2) Run the freeway lift on weekends. It will help spread the crowds around more.

and if Whiteface somehow gets enough money to put snowmaking on Hoyts,

3) Keep Hoyts ungroomed. Nice bump runs are always enjoyed...

I say do what they do with wilderness keep half groomed and they leave another half with some bumps

[highpeaksdrifter]

They could use more bartenders in the afternoons. Not that I am there often.


Somebody needs to find a way to get those GREAT cameo appearances by someone other than BUTTWIDENER back in the lounge.

Not a day goes by on the weekend that I don't have to hear a customer ask, "What happened to the three Sams?", or, "What happened to the Yegermeister ( sp ) Girls?", or, "Why doesn't Lake Placid Pub 'n Brewery do tastings up here anymore?", etc., etc. etc..

Centerplate is turning the lounge into a retirement facility. What needs to be done to make it fun again???


How about some good Buffalo Wings at the bar? Really, the Cloudspin Lounge needs some attention. The beer is decent and it's a nice place to get a drink, but the food selections is inadequate. Beer and wings at the end of a hard ski day hit the spot.

PS - the bar in the Gore base lodge has really good wings.

Sometimes I wonder if Center Plate wants to make money in the lounge. I know guys who go right to Stienhoff's after skiing now. It's not that they don't like the bar, or because of the prices, it's that they don't want to deal with the hassel of trying to get a drink. There is not enough bar staff on the weekends. It's too bad cause it is a nice and convenient place to meet with friends after a great day on the mountain.

The best time at the lounge was when they had a band on the deck retro saturday. You still had to stand in line to get a beer though.

[Snowballs]

More Beer!!! :lol:

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

3) Keep Hoyts ungroomed. Nice bump runs are always enjoyed...

I say do what they do with wilderness keep half groomed and they leave another half with some bumps


Not that I've skied it, but my sense is that Hoyt's might be a little too narrow to go half and half.

Not to hijack the thread, but, where are they going to fit the other trail next to Hoyt's? From the plans, the lower half of the second trail was supposed to squeeze in between Hoyt's and the lift, but it doesn't look like there's enough room there.

I HOPE the compromise won't be to just widen Hoyt's in order to handle the increased traffic. We've got enough wide boulevards on the mountain.

[nyspnypd]

3) Keep Hoyts ungroomed. Nice bump runs are always enjoyed...

I say do what they do with wilderness keep half groomed and they leave another half with some bumps


Not that I've skied it, but my sense is that Hoyt's might be a little too narrow to go half and half.

Not to hijack the thread, but, where are they going to fit the other trail next to Hoyt's? From the plans, the lower half of the second trail was supposed to squeeze in between Hoyt's and the lift, but it doesn't look like there's enough room there.

I HOPE the compromise won't be to just widen Hoyt's in order to handle the increased traffic. We've got enough wide boulevards on the mountain.

It is suppose to go further down pats lookout below on Wilmington and then meet at the bottom of the lift.

[snowman]

They could use more bartenders in the afternoons. Not that I am there often.


Somebody needs to find a way to get those GREAT cameo appearances by someone other than BUTTWIDENER back in the lounge.

Not a day goes by on the weekend that I don't have to hear a customer ask, "What happened to the three Sams?", or, "What happened to the Yegermeister ( sp ) Girls?", or, "Why doesn't Lake Placid Pub 'n Brewery do tastings up here anymore?", etc., etc. etc..

Centerplate is turning the lounge into a retirement facility. What needs to be done to make it fun again???


How about some good Buffalo Wings at the bar? Really, the Cloudspin Lounge needs some attention. The beer is decent and it's a nice place to get a drink, but the food selections is inadequate. Beer and wings at the end of a hard ski day hit the spot.

PS - the bar in the Gore base lodge has really good wings.

Sometimes I wonder if Center Plate wants to make money in the lounge. I know guys who go right to Stienhoff's after skiing now. It's not that they don't like the bar, or because of the prices, it's that they don't want to deal with the hassel of trying to get a drink. There is not enough bar staff on the weekends. It's too bad cause it is a nice and convenient place to meet with friends after a great day on the mountain.

The best time at the lounge was when they had a band on the deck retro saturday. You still had to stand in line to get a beer though.

Boy, I agree. Whiteface has one of the biggest bars at the mountain that I can think of, but it is impossible to get a drink. Can some of the staff from the mid station or cafeteria stay a little later and work at the bar? It seems like it would be a money maker.

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

3) Keep Hoyts ungroomed. Nice bump runs are always enjoyed...

I say do what they do with wilderness keep half groomed and they leave another half with some bumps


Not that I've skied it, but my sense is that Hoyt's might be a little too narrow to go half and half.

Not to hijack the thread, but, where are they going to fit the other trail next to Hoyt's? From the plans, the lower half of the second trail was supposed to squeeze in between Hoyt's and the lift, but it doesn't look like there's enough room there.

I HOPE the compromise won't be to just widen Hoyt's in order to handle the increased traffic. We've got enough wide boulevards on the mountain.

It is suppose to go further down pats lookout below on Wilmington and then meet at the bottom of the lift.


??

i was talking about the trail that's supposed to be parallel to hoyt's. i don't think there's another trail planned near lookout below, unless the plans have changed?

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

They could use more bartenders in the afternoons. Not that I am there often.


Somebody needs to find a way to get those GREAT cameo appearances by someone other than BUTTWIDENER back in the lounge.

Not a day goes by on the weekend that I don't have to hear a customer ask, "What happened to the three Sams?", or, "What happened to the Yegermeister ( sp ) Girls?", or, "Why doesn't Lake Placid Pub 'n Brewery do tastings up here anymore?", etc., etc. etc..

Centerplate is turning the lounge into a retirement facility. What needs to be done to make it fun again???


How about some good Buffalo Wings at the bar? Really, the Cloudspin Lounge needs some attention. The beer is decent and it's a nice place to get a drink, but the food selections is inadequate. Beer and wings at the end of a hard ski day hit the spot.

PS - the bar in the Gore base lodge has really good wings.

Sometimes I wonder if Center Plate wants to make money in the lounge. I know guys who go right to Stienhoff's after skiing now. It's not that they don't like the bar, or because of the prices, it's that they don't want to deal with the hassel of trying to get a drink. There is not enough bar staff on the weekends. It's too bad cause it is a nice and convenient place to meet with friends after a great day on the mountain.

The best time at the lounge was when they had a band on the deck retro saturday. You still had to stand in line to get a beer though.

Boy, I agree. Whiteface has one of the biggest bars at the mountain that I can think of, but it is impossible to get a drink. Can some of the staff from the mid station or cafeteria stay a little later and work at the bar? It seems like it would be a money maker.



three possible solutions/alternatives:


http://www.lakewoodconferences.com/direct/dbimage/50182402/Hip_Flask.jpg

or

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1614/PreviewComp/SuperStock_1614R-10264.jpg

or

http://z.about.com/d/gourmetfood/1/0/f/A/Jagermeister.jpg

[highpeaksdrifter]

* Open up the Freeway liftline to skiing. Gore has utilized its liftlines for cheap terrain expansions to great effect. Whiteface should do the same. There appears to be a small amount of mileage leftover anyways.

I’ve thought this myself. When there is enough snow on it that trail looks great. It has a nice pitch, not too wide, some rocks to drop off if you want; it just has a very nice flow to it. People who I’ve spoken to that have poached it love it.

It’s suppressing that Whiteface and Gore are both run by ORDA, yet they have polar opposite approaches to opening lift lines. At Gore they have Double Barrel, High Pines Glades, and Dark Side Glades all of which are a blast to ski. Gore also categorizes them as glades so they may not even count against their trail mileage limit, I’m unclear on that.

Here’s a picture I took of Dark Side Glades a couple of seasons ago. There is far more exposed rock then there is under I lift (Freeway lift).

http://forums.skiadk.com/albums/album24/DSCI0017_edited_1.jpg

The terrain under Chair 6 is also skiable, but a power cable would have to be moved. Under I lift all that would have to be done is take down the rope.

The trail that is now Blazer’s Bluff was blocked by a wood fence for a lot of years. Then a couple of years ago they took the fence down, which was a great idea. When it has snow it, it is a fun little trail to ski. Under I lift would be even better IMO. Let’s hope someday they drop the rope and let people ski it. High Peaks Drifter glade has a nice ring to it, don't ya think? :wink: :lol:

[highpeaksdrifter]

http://z.about.com/d/gourmetfood/1/0/f/A/Jagermeister.jpg

The Jägermeister girls where at Stienhoff's one night the season before this and I asked one of them if they would be at the lounge this year. She said WF wasn't on their schedule anymore. She didn't know why.

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

The Jägermeister girls



I think they prefer to be referred to as Jägerettes.....

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

[quote=takeahike46er]
There is far more exposed rock then there is under I lift (Freeway lift).





Tssk, tssk. I think you meant to say Lift 7, not Lift I or Freeway Lift.

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

3) Keep Hoyts ungroomed. Nice bump runs are always enjoyed...

I say do what they do with wilderness keep half groomed and they leave another half with some bumps


Not that I've skied it, but my sense is that Hoyt's might be a little too narrow to go half and half.

Not to hijack the thread, but, where are they going to fit the other trail next to Hoyt's? From the plans, the lower half of the second trail was supposed to squeeze in between Hoyt's and the lift, but it doesn't look like there's enough room there.

I HOPE the compromise won't be to just widen Hoyt's in order to handle the increased traffic. We've got enough wide boulevards on the mountain.

It is suppose to go further down pats lookout below on Wilmington and then meet at the bottom of the lift.


??

i was talking about the trail that's supposed to be parallel to hoyt's. i don't think there's another trail planned near lookout below, unless the plans have changed?



you can see the trail that's supposed to be parallel to hoyt's in this image:

http://www.whiteface.com/newsite/onmtn/imgs/trailmap.jpg

[NPN]

* Open up the Freeway liftline to skiing. Gore has utilized its liftlines for cheap terrain expansions to great effect. Whiteface should do the same. There appears to be a small amount of mileage leftover anyways.

I’ve thought this myself. When there is enough snow on it that trail looks great. It has a nice pitch, not too wide, some rocks to drop off if you want; it just has a very nice flow to it. People who I’ve spoken to that have poached it love it.

It’s suppressing that Whiteface and Gore are both run by ORDA, yet they have polar opposite approaches to opening lift lines. At Gore they have Double Barrel, High Pines Glades, and Dark Side Glades all of which are a blast to ski. Gore also categorizes them as glades so they may not even count against their trail mileage limit, I’m unclear on that.

Here’s a picture I took of Dark Side Glades a couple of seasons ago. There is far more exposed rock then there is under I lift (Freeway lift).

http://forums.skiadk.com/albums/album24/DSCI0017_edited_1.jpg

The terrain under Chair 6 is also skiable, but a power cable would have to be moved. Under I lift all that would have to be done is take down the rope.

The trail that is now Blazer’s Bluff was blocked by a wood fence for a lot of years. Then a couple of years ago they took the fence down, which was a great idea. When it has snow it, it is a fun little trail to ski. Under I lift would be even better IMO. Let’s hope someday they drop the rope and let people ski it. High Peaks Drifter glade has a nice ring to it, don't ya think? :wink: :lol:

They used to open most of the lift lines. I've got a ton of great memories of powder runs under 6, and remember an amazing run with Lori Singer under Freeway. No rope ducking required, but I will say you need a pretty decent natural snowfall to access either ( unless you really want to do some damage ).

[NPN]

http://z.about.com/d/gourmetfood/1/0/f/A/Jagermeister.jpg

The Jägermeister girls where at Stienhoff's one night the season before this and I asked one of them if they would be at the lounge this year. She said WF wasn't on their schedule anymore. She didn't know why.

Ahhh, BUTTWIDENER conspiracy, but you can't expect a Jagerette to know about the dirty dealings of Centerplate. Time to contact your crooked NYS assemblyman/woman, but don't expect much 'cause they only know snow is something they pay to get moved out of their driveways.

[nyspnypd]

3) Keep Hoyts ungroomed. Nice bump runs are always enjoyed...

I say do what they do with wilderness keep half groomed and they leave another half with some bumps


Not that I've skied it, but my sense is that Hoyt's might be a little too narrow to go half and half.

Not to hijack the thread, but, where are they going to fit the other trail next to Hoyt's? From the plans, the lower half of the second trail was supposed to squeeze in between Hoyt's and the lift, but it doesn't look like there's enough room there.

I HOPE the compromise won't be to just widen Hoyt's in order to handle the increased traffic. We've got enough wide boulevards on the mountain.

It is suppose to go further down pats lookout below on Wilmington and then meet at the bottom of the lift.






i was talking about the trail that's supposed to be parallel to hoyt's. i don't think there's another trail planned near lookout below, unless the plans have changed?



you can see the trail that's supposed to be parallel to hoyt's in this image:

http://www.whiteface.com/newsite/onmtn/imgs/trailmap.jpg




I see what you are saying yes that is a trail I guess they were suppose to cut this year but with the money problem who knows. Hope that answered your question?

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

3) Keep Hoyts ungroomed. Nice bump runs are always enjoyed...

I say do what they do with wilderness keep half groomed and they leave another half with some bumps


Not that I've skied it, but my sense is that Hoyt's might be a little too narrow to go half and half.

Not to hijack the thread, but, where are they going to fit the other trail next to Hoyt's? From the plans, the lower half of the second trail was supposed to squeeze in between Hoyt's and the lift, but it doesn't look like there's enough room there.

I HOPE the compromise won't be to just widen Hoyt's in order to handle the increased traffic. We've got enough wide boulevards on the mountain.

It is suppose to go further down pats lookout below on Wilmington and then meet at the bottom of the lift.






i was talking about the trail that's supposed to be parallel to hoyt's. i don't think there's another trail planned near lookout below, unless the plans have changed?



you can see the trail that's supposed to be parallel to hoyt's in this image:

http://www.whiteface.com/newsite/onmtn/imgs/trailmap.jpg




I see what you are saying yes that is a trail I guess they were suppose to cut this year but with the money problem who knows. Hope that answered your question?


Thanks.

Yeah, I knew about the money and time issues causing them not to cut the trail....I was more wondering at this point where they'd even put the second trail, since Hoyt's seems to have been cut too close to the liftline to permit another trail between the lift and trail.

We'll see....

Anyway, with Gore making a big fuss about snowmaking being installed on Sagamore this offseason and Whiteface silent on their plans, it makes me think not much will be done this year on the mountain.

[Snowballs]

that would flat out suck.

[snowman]

I was thinking about this in the car yesterday. Here are a couple more ideas:

Either replace or remove the seat covers on chair 6. The shredded ones really make the lift look pretty ghetto.

More upbeat music in the main lodge - more fun stuff. The selections over the last couple of years have been snoozers... Amercian Pie doesn't really make me want to pound through the bumps. :-)

More deals for pass holders - the coupons last year were a good idea. what about food discounts on certain days. I might buy more instead of bring my own.

[nyspnypd]

More deals for pass holders - the coupons last year were a good idea. what about food discounts on certain days. I might buy more instead of bring my own.

I agree 100%

[NPN]

[quote="snowman"] More deals for pass holders.[/quote

I don't know if this is on the same line of thought, but a friend of mine ( who has finally understood the value to pony up for a pass ) asked me why Whiteface doesn't have Gore's friend's pass program?

He really wanted to have the Whiteface point of purchase so his pass didn't say "More Gore" on it, but was willing to suffer that indignity in order to get the 10% off.

Somebody got an answer on this one?

[nyspnypd]

[quote=snowman] More deals for pass holders.[/quote

I don't know if this is on the same line of thought, but a friend of mine ( who has finally understood the value to pony up for a pass ) asked me why Whiteface doesn't have Gore's friend's pass program?

He really wanted to have the Whiteface point of purchase so his pass didn't say "More Gore" on it, but was willing to suffer that indignity in order to get the 10% off.

Somebody got an answer on this one?

I don't know I agree same owner who knows.

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

3) Keep Hoyts ungroomed. Nice bump runs are always enjoyed...

I say do what they do with wilderness keep half groomed and they leave another half with some bumps


Not that I've skied it, but my sense is that Hoyt's might be a little too narrow to go half and half.

Not to hijack the thread, but, where are they going to fit the other trail next to Hoyt's? From the plans, the lower half of the second trail was supposed to squeeze in between Hoyt's and the lift, but it doesn't look like there's enough room there.

I HOPE the compromise won't be to just widen Hoyt's in order to handle the increased traffic. We've got enough wide boulevards on the mountain.

It is suppose to go further down pats lookout below on Wilmington and then meet at the bottom of the lift.






i was talking about the trail that's supposed to be parallel to hoyt's. i don't think there's another trail planned near lookout below, unless the plans have changed?



you can see the trail that's supposed to be parallel to hoyt's in this image:

http://www.whiteface.com/newsite/onmtn/imgs/trailmap.jpg




I see what you are saying yes that is a trail I guess they were suppose to cut this year but with the money problem who knows. Hope that answered your question?


Thanks.

Yeah, I knew about the money and time issues causing them not to cut the trail....I was more wondering at this point where they'd even put the second trail, since Hoyt's seems to have been cut too close to the liftline to permit another trail between the lift and trail.

We'll see....

Anyway, with Gore making a big fuss about snowmaking being installed on Sagamore this offseason and Whiteface silent on their plans, it makes me think not much will be done this year on the mountain.



Hadn't noticed this sentence before on the summary of the Lookout development on WF's Web site (http://www.whiteface.com/newsite/onmtn/lookout.php): "1 more expert trail is in the line up to be completed in the upcoming years on Lookout Mountain".

Upcoming years?? Nice and vague..............
:(

[Snowballs]

http://skikabbalah.com/lostNY/MARBLE.htm


the book.... Exploring the Adirondak 46 high peaks by james r. burnside (avaliable from the ADK Club, Amazon, etc.) has info about the different early ski areas in the Wilmington area. if you like the ADK region, this book has alot of info. it's interesting read even if you're a non hiker.

since it's the off season, i'll relate an interesting story from that book. it should cause everyone to rethink their safety precautions and to carry a whistle in the back country..........

a guy was x-country skiing in the high peaks. as he approached the summit he entered into the cripple brush area( those very small flag trees) all this was buried in deep snow and he musta thought he was skiing on solid snow. he wasn't. suddenly the snow collasped under him and he fell into a 12-15 foot deep hole in the snow. he was unable to climb out. the short trees were of no use. he found himself stuck deep in the winter wilderness. he had a whistle with him that he kept blowing and blowing on for hours. luckily some one heard it and rescued him. if you get stuck, you will very quickly lose your voice(and get exhausted) yelling for help and you will no longer be able to summon help. anything can happen in the wilds. surely this man thought he was on solid snow when he skied over a "void" . it might have been his grave if he did not have that whistle. this is why the ADK sells whistles - they're life savers.

here's a riddle for you..........what can a man drown in and not get wet?

several years ago i was hiking with some ADKers. as is their wont, they started talking about hiking various mtns when the talk turned to mt. marshall. one guy said he slipped into a trailside "mudhole?" and he just kept sinking. he was up to his chest before he was able to grab some tree roots and pull himself out. another person said the same thing happened to them there. both said it was really weird. both feared they would die. so i asked them " were you wet when you got out? ". " no i was dry" they replied. " Quicksand." i told them. "you were in quicksand ". they were shocked.

i've never seen Quicksand mentioned in all the outdoor stuff i've read on the area. even the Park publications don't mention it. appearantly it's there, at least on marshall.

be prepared. get a whistle. your cell phone will probably be useless.

just a little FYI.

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

suggestion for whiteface's Web site:

add a page like the one on gore's site (http://www.goremountain.com/mountain/improvements.cfm) that lists upcoming improvements....say it loud, say it proud! (unless, of course, not much is on tap? :( )

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

regarding the picture of the two chairs and the lake currently cycling on the web site, how about getting a pic with real adirondack chairs?

[oldskibum]

regarding the picture of the two chairs and the lake currently cycling on the web site, how about getting a pic with real adirondack chairs? I think, if you check the history of the Adk. chair, that is the original design. I read that somewhere, but can't recall where. Off shoots from that design are plentiful, including probably, the style you are thinking of. I may have read it on a tag on one of the chairs that were by guest services last season.

[snowman]

I think those are Westport Chairs, which were before ADK chairs. Solid back and solid seat.

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

I think those are Westport Chairs, which were before ADK chairs. Solid back and solid seat.



thanks for that. looks like you're right: http://www.thefieldfarm.com/westportchair.htm

[NPN]

I know this place where you can get 'em a lot cheaper ( that's the price not the product ):

http://www.whiteface.com/chairs/index.php

[muzikman]

Bring somesteady entertainment to the loudspin lounge!

[Adirondackskier]

Ask and you shall receive ...Live music returns in the Cloudspin this winter:
Dec 13 Trenchtown Oddities ===awesome band hailing from Ottawa
Jan 1 Big Boss Sausage
Jan 10 TBD ---but I am still looking for an awesome local reggae or island music band
Feb 7 -- Big Boss Sausage
March 14 Irish Party ---- tbd
April 4 - Ironwod deck party!

additionally, we will have accoustic guys, trios ad yes even German oompah music in the bar this winter!!!

Bridget

[DUST BLASTER]

Get the Drought system working in the bar working NOW! I don't understand how it can be broke for eight days and counting. :cry:

[ob1snowbee]

Nothing I can think of because of the limitations of being inside the Park which, I think is a wonderful thing. But if you could do someting to make it better just for me, I'd ask for constant, snowy nights, blue sky days, fog free summits and sometimes, softer landings. Thanks for askin'.

[highpeaksdrifter]

Nothing I can think of because of the limitations of being inside the Park which, I think is a wonderful thing. But if you could do someting to make it better just for me, I'd ask for constant, snowy nights, blue sky days, fog free summits and sometimes, softer landings. Thanks for askin'.

Good second post, you're first was March 21, 2006. Good hearing from you again. :D