local passholders getting the shaft next year

[knight53]

I was shocked to see the price of a nonholiday ski pass for next year. Would you believe triple the price of this last year? What's up with that? If ORDA doesn't care about the local pass holders, shame on them. I think Essex County residents should recieve a special discount, we pay taxes! What a huge disappointment. How do other local passholders feel about this?

[skigolfhunt]

Non Holiday pass is $349, (at least thats what is says on the snow phone). The last 3 years its been $299. $50 is a bit of a jump, but still a good deal. The mountian is owned by the state not the county. :roll:

Non Holiday pass is $349, (at least thats what is says on the snow phone). The last 3 years its been $299. $50 is a bit of a jump, but still a good deal. The mountian is owned by the state not the county. :roll:

I think this is still a deal. Look at other ski areas in the northeast. The prices are much higher. The only thing that I would like to see is a discount to purhcase holiday tickets for non-holiday season pass holders. What is a little out of line is the cost of a locker rental in the members only areas. That is $175 @ year but that is if you can get one. The waiting list is long.

[freeheelwilly]

It's $349 - you just have to buy it early. And I understand that it will be good for two days during the holiday period. Not sure if that's accurate but if it is, the $50 jump is more than justified. Even if not true, it remains one of the great bargains in the East. Isn't the All-East ASC pass $349/year? Those mountains SUCK.

I only waited one year for a locker. get on the list. Can't hurt. And $175/year is a bargain IMO. Not havin' to hump your gear all over the place is nice. And I would imagine most ski thefts happen at the base - so it's nice to have a safe place to put the sticks.

[tjf67]

Non Holiday pass is $349, (at least thats what is says on the snow phone). The last 3 years its been $299. $50 is a bit of a jump, but still a good deal. The mountian is owned by the state not the county. :roll:

I think this is still a deal. Look at other ski areas in the northeast. The prices are much higher. The only thing that I would like to see is a discount to purhcase holiday tickets for non-holiday season pass holders. What is a little out of line is the cost of a locker rental in the members only areas. That is $175 @ year but that is if you can get one. The waiting list is long.

175 bucks for a locker rental is rediculiously low. That price should be hopped up to around a grand and they could put some other amenities in the "private room". That would be a good investment for the mountain.

[Phineas]

we are getting Dec 23, 24 and 25 so if UR local U get a real bonus; skiing when the mtn is pretty deserted!

Looks like Christmas in KV this year!

[Face4Me]

Non Holiday pass is $349, (at least thats what is says on the snow phone). The last 3 years its been $299. $50 is a bit of a jump, but still a good deal. The mountian is owned by the state not the county. :roll:

I think this is still a deal. Look at other ski areas in the northeast. The prices are much higher. The only thing that I would like to see is a discount to purhcase holiday tickets for non-holiday season pass holders. What is a little out of line is the cost of a locker rental in the members only areas. That is $175 @ year but that is if you can get one. The waiting list is long.

For holiday tickets, you can always pick up one of the Snow Sampler packages ... If I remember correctly, I think it's $200 for four passes that are good ANYTIME and are also transferrable. Not saying $50 bucks is cheap ... but, it does give you some options if during one of the holiday periods, you decide you want to head out for a day or two. If you end up not using them, you can always try to sell them ... This also assumes they don't raise the price on that deal ... It used to be $180, so who knows what it might be this year ...

[PowderBurn]

[quote="freeheelwilly"]Even if not true, it remains one of the great bargains in the East. Isn't the All-East ASC pass $349/year? Those mountains SUCK.

How can you compare that when the ASC pass gets you 6 mountains. I know people don't like Killington because of the mobs, but Mount Snow is great if you know where your going, sugarbush is always fun, Attitash is fast, and Pico is always empty so if the crowds bother you you can ski there and still go to the killer parties at killington.

Now in no way am I bashing Whiteface. The place is a blast, and it is the best mountain in the East (when there is snow)

Just a side note my ASC all-east pass for $349 didn't have any black-out days this year, but that isn't even really the point. A season pass for under $400 is a good deal and the ASC mountains are some of the best mountains in the East. Jay is the best solely because of the snowfall, and Whiteface is the best when the snow is there, but as far as always being able to find something fun to ski you can't really beat having 6 passes for the price of one.

[freeheelwilly]

[quote=freeheelwilly]Even if not true, it remains one of the great bargains in the East. Isn't the All-East ASC pass $349/year? Those mountains SUCK.

How can you compare that when the ASC pass gets you 6 mountains. I know people don't like Killington because of the mobs, but Mount Snow is great if you know where your going, sugarbush is always fun, Attitash is fast, and Pico is always empty so if the crowds bother you you can ski there and still go to the killer parties at killington.

Now in no way am I bashing Whiteface. The place is a blast, and it is the best mountain in the East (when there is snow)

Just a side note my ASC all-east pass for $349 didn't have any black-out days this year, but that isn't even really the point. A season pass for under $400 is a good deal and the ASC mountains are some of the best mountains in the East. Jay is the best solely because of the snowfall, and Whiteface is the best when the snow is there, but as far as always being able to find something fun to ski you can't really beat having 6 passes for the price of one.

Sugarbush isn't part of ASC. If it was, I'd agree with you because it's an awesome mountain. But Pico, Snow, Attitash, K-mart......No thanks. I wouldn't mind checkin' out Sugarloaf but it's such a haul for me that I'd never go more than once a year. And the whole "6 Mountain" thing is a goof. You can only be in one place at a time.

[PowderBurn]

Sorry I get my loaf's and bushes messed up all the time.

But the benefit of six mountains is that you can always find something that is fun for what you are looking for. If its a nice spring day, like now and you want to hammer some bumps and hang out afterwards, what is better than killington. Or maybe there's one of those southerly storms coming, (that have been pretty frequent this year) and the mount snow gets hit while no place else does. The point is that you always have options for the same $349.

Again don't get me wrong I love Whiteface, but ASC's season pass is a great value.

[jackstraw]

they should pay YOU to ski iceface!!!!!! hahahaah!!!!!!!!!!!

[mattchuck2]

Yeah, when I was in college I was an hour and 10 minutes from Sugarloaf and I got the all east college pass for $315 or something like that. I'd ski the Loaf (and occasionally Sunday River) at school, then I'd come home for breaks and hit Mt. Snow and Killington. Worked out pretty well for me.

And if you've never gotten to ski Sugarloaf, I highly recommend it. I think it is the most similar mountain to Whiteface. Long, sustained vertical, quad burning groomers, competition level bump trail, great trees (but only if you know where to look), sweet park and pipe, and a little bit of an adventure with the snowfields (which, like the slides, are rarely open). They even have a steep, 3 ski length wide trail like Empire (Misery Whip). Plus it's colder than a witches teet!

[wondertrev]

It really isn't that great a place to ski, but that's as cheap as it gets. I've always wondered why they don't do more for locals. No wonder most folks I know go to Jay Peak.

[intheknow]

yes it did go up $50. but if you look closer, you can use this pass on dec 24-25. those are 2 days that were always blacked out previously but not now.

[Jon951]

Pass should be priced according to geographic location of holder. The further you live from the area, the cheaper the pass should be. Of course, you could travel once and stay the entire season....one heck of a deal!

[Jon951]

Oh, forgot to mention....

Never was able to use my restricted pass at all this year. Whiteface should offer some type of consolation for a situation like this. Perhaps issue two lift ticket vouchers for next year. This woul dbe good PR move in my estimation.

I'll keep dreaming.

[wondertrev]

What's so interesting is that they make little to no attempt to keep tha locals happy. If you look at the web site, they even mention how useful the pass is for those that come for 2-3 weekends a year. They certainly don't market or advertise to the locals. Maybe because they realize non-pass-holding locals can go to Titus, Vermont, or QC, whereas the folks from downstate will head to a place that's still living off it's 1932 glory.

But I'll probably get a pass. It's 349 pour moi and 25 for the kiddo.

[Son of Drifter]

What's so interesting is that they make little to no attempt to keep tha locals happy. If you look at the web site, they even mention how useful the pass is for those that come for 2-3 weekends a year. They certainly don't market or advertise to the locals. Maybe because they realize non-pass-holding locals can go to Titus, Vermont, or QC, whereas the folks from downstate will head to a place that's still living off it's 1932 glory.

But I'll probably get a pass. It's 349 pour moi and 25 for the kiddo.

I'd like to think they've upgraded a little and are living off the 1980 glory. That was the better Olympic for sure. :twisted:

[skigolfhunt]

Oh, forgot to mention....

Never was able to use my restricted pass at all this year. Whiteface should offer some type of consolation for a situation like this. Perhaps issue two lift ticket vouchers for next year. This woul dbe good PR move in my estimation.

I'll keep dreaming.Pass should be priced according to geographic location of holder. The further you live from the area, the cheaper the pass should be. Of course, you could travel once and stay the entire season....one heck of a deal!

Aint that like asking a store for a larger shirt cause you got fat & never wore the first one for the six months you owned it while getting fat? And if you live farther from the store than the next Joe you get a lower price too!

[Tsavolion]

Oh, forgot to mention....

Never was able to use my restricted pass at all this year. Whiteface should offer some type of consolation for a situation like this. Perhaps issue two lift ticket vouchers for next year. This woul dbe good PR move in my estimation.

I'll keep dreaming.Pass should be priced according to geographic location of holder. The further you live from the area, the cheaper the pass should be. Of course, you could travel once and stay the entire season....one heck of a deal!

Aint that like asking a store for a larger shirt cause you got fat & never wore the first one for the six months you owned it while getting fat? And if you live farther from the store than the next Joe you get a lower price too!

you are obviously not a lawyer, you make a terrible arguement jon. those are the two silliest remarks on this forum and that isnt saying much. thats your problem if you didnt use your pass, no excuse for that.

[Faceplant]

They do! Check the hotel rates that include a lift ticket....some are cheaper than the lift ticket alone. If you've got a place up here, U B a local. I'm from Joisey too.
I once had a pass at a small SJ resort that was owned by VVGG (now Mt Creek) and the pass was good at both but the price was a third of VVGG.

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

$349 for an ENTIRE season of (non-holiday) skiing?

$63 for ONE DAY of (non-holiday) skiing?

I've always thought Whiteface, more than 99% of other ski areas, favors its locals over day-trippers. Clearly, to me, local guy is getting a bargain compared to NJ guy who comes for a long weekend (then again, NJ guys is paying a bit less at Whiteface than K-Mart).