[quote="snowman"] More deals for pass holders.[/quote

I don't know if this is on the same line of thought, but a friend of mine ( who has finally understood the value to pony up for a pass ) asked me why Whiteface doesn't have Gore's friend's pass program?

He really wanted to have the Whiteface point of purchase so his pass didn't say "More Gore" on it, but was willing to suffer that indignity in order to get the 10% off.

Somebody got an answer on this one?

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snowman wrote:

More deals for pass holders.[/quote I don't know if this is on the same line of thought, but a friend of mine ( who has finally understood the value to pony up for a pass ) asked me why Whiteface doesn't have Gore's friend's pass program? He really wanted to have the Whiteface point of purchase so his pass didn't say "More Gore" on it, but was willing to suffer that indignity in order to get the 10% off. Somebody got an answer on this one?

I don't know I agree same owner who knows.

ComeBackMudPuddles wrote:

nyspnypd wrote: ComeBackMudPuddles wrote: ComeBackMudPuddles wrote: nyspnypd wrote: ComeBackMudPuddles wrote: nyspnypd wrote: CUskibum wrote: 3) Keep Hoyts ungroomed. Nice bump runs are always enjoyed... I say do what they do with wilderness keep half groomed and they leave another half with some bumps Not that I've skied it, but my sense is that Hoyt's might be a little too narrow to go half and half. Not to hijack the thread, but, where are they going to fit the other trail next to Hoyt's? From the plans, the lower half of the second trail was supposed to squeeze in between Hoyt's and the lift, but it doesn't look like there's enough room there. I HOPE the compromise won't be to just widen Hoyt's in order to handle the increased traffic. We've got enough wide boulevards on the mountain. It is suppose to go further down pats lookout below on Wilmington and then meet at the bottom of the lift. i was talking about the trail that's supposed to be parallel to hoyt's. i don't think there's another trail planned near lookout below, unless the plans have changed? you can see the trail that's supposed to be parallel to hoyt's in this image: I see what you are saying yes that is a trail I guess they were suppose to cut this year but with the money problem who knows. Hope that answered your question? Thanks. Yeah, I knew about the money and time issues causing them not to cut the trail....I was more wondering at this point where they'd even put the second trail, since Hoyt's seems to have been cut too close to the liftline to permit another trail between the lift and trail. We'll see.... Anyway, with Gore making a big fuss about snowmaking being installed on Sagamore this offseason and Whiteface silent on their plans, it makes me think not much will be done this year on the mountain.

Hadn't noticed this sentence before on the summary of the Lookout development on WF's Web site (http://www.whiteface.com/newsite/onmtn/lookout.php): "1 more expert trail is in the line up to be completed in the upcoming years on Lookout Mountain".

Upcoming years?? Nice and vague..............

http://skikabbalah.com/lostNY/MARBLE.htm


the book.... Exploring the Adirondak 46 high peaks by james r. burnside (avaliable from the ADK Club, Amazon, etc.) has info about the different early ski areas in the Wilmington area. if you like the ADK region, this book has alot of info. it's interesting read even if you're a non hiker.

since it's the off season, i'll relate an interesting story from that book. it should cause everyone to rethink their safety precautions and to carry a whistle in the back country..........

a guy was x-country skiing in the high peaks. as he approached the summit he entered into the cripple brush area( those very small flag trees) all this was buried in deep snow and he musta thought he was skiing on solid snow. he wasn't. suddenly the snow collasped under him and he fell into a 12-15 foot deep hole in the snow. he was unable to climb out. the short trees were of no use. he found himself stuck deep in the winter wilderness. he had a whistle with him that he kept blowing and blowing on for hours. luckily some one heard it and rescued him. if you get stuck, you will very quickly lose your voice(and get exhausted) yelling for help and you will no longer be able to summon help. anything can happen in the wilds. surely this man thought he was on solid snow when he skied over a "void" . it might have been his grave if he did not have that whistle. this is why the ADK sells whistles - they're life savers.

here's a riddle for you..........what can a man drown in and not get wet?

several years ago i was hiking with some ADKers. as is their wont, they started talking about hiking various mtns when the talk turned to mt. marshall. one guy said he slipped into a trailside "mudhole?" and he just kept sinking. he was up to his chest before he was able to grab some tree roots and pull himself out. another person said the same thing happened to them there. both said it was really weird. both feared they would die. so i asked them " were you wet when you got out? ". " no i was dry" they replied. " Quicksand." i told them. "you were in quicksand ". they were shocked.

i've never seen Quicksand mentioned in all the outdoor stuff i've read on the area. even the Park publications don't mention it. appearantly it's there, at least on marshall.

be prepared. get a whistle. your cell phone will probably be useless.

just a little FYI.

suggestion for whiteface's Web site:

add a page like the one on gore's site (http://www.goremountain.com/mountain/improvements.cfm) that lists upcoming improvements....say it loud, say it proud! (unless, of course, not much is on tap? )

regarding the picture of the two chairs and the lake currently cycling on the web site, how about getting a pic with real adirondack chairs?

ComeBackMudPuddles wrote:

regarding the picture of the two chairs and the lake currently cycling on the web site, how about getting a pic with real adirondack chairs?

I think, if you check the history of the Adk. chair, that is the original design. I read that somewhere, but can't recall where. Off shoots from that design are plentiful, including probably, the style you are thinking of. I may have read it on a tag on one of the chairs that were by guest services last season.

I think those are Westport Chairs, which were before ADK chairs. Solid back and solid seat.

snowman wrote:

I think those are Westport Chairs, which were before ADK chairs. Solid back and solid seat.

thanks for that. looks like you're right: http://www.thefieldfarm.com/westportchair.htm

I know this place where you can get 'em a lot cheaper ( that's the price not the product ):

http://www.whiteface.com/chairs/index.php

Bring somesteady entertainment to the loudspin lounge!

Ask and you shall receive ...Live music returns in the Cloudspin this winter:
Dec 13 Trenchtown Oddities ===awesome band hailing from Ottawa
Jan 1 Big Boss Sausage
Jan 10 TBD ---but I am still looking for an awesome local reggae or island music band
Feb 7 -- Big Boss Sausage
March 14 Irish Party ---- tbd
April 4 - Ironwod deck party!

additionally, we will have accoustic guys, trios ad yes even German oompah music in the bar this winter!!!

Bridget

Get the Drought system working in the bar working NOW! I don't understand how it can be broke for eight days and counting.

Nothing I can think of because of the limitations of being inside the Park which, I think is a wonderful thing. But if you could do someting to make it better just for me, I'd ask for constant, snowy nights, blue sky days, fog free summits and sometimes, softer landings. Thanks for askin'.

ob1snowbee wrote:

Nothing I can think of because of the limitations of being inside the Park which, I think is a wonderful thing. But if you could do someting to make it better just for me, I'd ask for constant, snowy nights, blue sky days, fog free summits and sometimes, softer landings. Thanks for askin'.

Good second post, you're first was March 21, 2006. Good hearing from you again.