Does anyone know the history of Marble Mountain and Whiteface? What was the impetus for closing the old hill and moving to Whiteface? What were the original runs that were cut on WF?

You pose some interesting questions 46er. Maybe some WF historian in hear can answer them. I believe the proposed new expansion (Island Pod?) will be incorporating some of the old Marble Mt. trails.

I'd love to see an old map of Marble Mt. For what was I believe to be a small area it had a very high elavation for the NE.

highpeaksdrifter wrote:

You pose some interesting questions 46er. Maybe some WF historian in hear can answer them. I believe the proposed new expansion (Island Pod?) will be incorporating some of the old Marble Mt. trails. I'd love to see an old map of Marble Mt. For what was I believe to be a small area it had a very high elavation for the NE.

I think I'll post some real info over in the "immature" RSN forum

I outta here!

I want to here the history.

Phineas wrote:

highpeaksdrifter wrote: You pose some interesting questions 46er. Maybe some WF historian in hear can answer them. I believe the proposed new expansion (Island Pod?) will be incorporating some of the old Marble Mt. trails. I'd love to see an old map of Marble Mt. For what was I believe to be a small area it had a very high elavation for the NE. I think I'll post some real info over in the "immature" RSN forum I outta here!

Talk about immature. You're bolting a wonderful and informative site, depriving hundreds if not thousands of people your knowledge of whiteface and skiing in general just b/c you can't post stuff like "jackstraw is a so and so" Come on buddy don't be that way.

P.S. I'll just go over and link the RSN post to here anyway.

highpeaksdrifter wrote:

I'd love to see an old map of Marble Mt. For what was I believe to be a small area it had a very high elavation for the NE.

You can get a sense of the trails by looking here: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=44.3888&lon=-73.8537&s=50&size=l&symshow=n&datum=nad83&layer=DRG25

The trail remnants are still visible from the air, especially with the most recent, highest resolution images found here: http://www1.nysgis.state.ny.us/MainMap.cfm

highpeaksdrifter wrote:

I believe the proposed new expansion (Island Pod?) will be incorporating some of the old Marble Mt. trails.

The Tree Island Pod will not incorporate Marble Mountain trails. The proposed Lookout Pod gets a bit closer to Marble Mountain, but in the end the old ski area falls outside of the area designated for WF development.

takeahike46er wrote:

highpeaksdrifter wrote: I'd love to see an old map of Marble Mt. For what was I believe to be a small area it had a very high elavation for the NE. You can get a sense of the trails by looking here: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=44.3888&lon=-73.8537&s=50&size=l&symshow=n&datum=nad83&layer=DRG25 The trail remnants are still visible from the air, especially with the most recent, highest resolution images found here: http://www1.nysgis.state.ny.us/MainMap.cfm highpeaksdrifter wrote: I believe the proposed new expansion (Island Pod?) will be incorporating some of the old Marble Mt. trails. The Tree Island Pod will not incorporate Marble Mountain trails. The proposed Lookout Pod gets a bit closer to Marble Mountain, but in the end the old ski area falls outside of the area designated for WF development.

That's pretty cool stuff you have there 46er. I have a serious question, what the heck is a pod? I always thought it was a family of whales.

The area that encompasses a lift and the set of trails descending from that lift. For example, The Summit Pod would be the area defined by the outermost trails descending from that lift.

takeahike46er wrote:

The area that encompasses a lift and the set of trails descending from that lift. For example, The Summit Pod would be the area defined by the outermost trails descending from that lift.

Thanks, it all makes sense now.

tjf67 wrote:

I want to here the history.

i think you should focus on learning present day english before you delve into history

Tsavolion wrote:

tjf67 wrote: I want to here the history. i think you should focus on learning present day english before you delve into history

Ok I will work on my english and you can work on your manners.

I thought I would share this:

http://docs.unh.edu/NY/lplc53ne.jpg

It is a topographic map from 1953 showing the Whiteface Mountain Ski Center, or Marble Mountain as we know it today. I was unaware that there were also ski trails cut on Lookout Mtn., as depicted on the map. Notice that there was a ski tow up there as well.

Interestingly, the Lookout Pod that is planned as a possible expansion plan occupies the very area where those ski trails and ski tow once existed.

takeahike46er: Very cool. Thanks.

takeahike46er wrote:

I thought I would share this: http://docs.unh.edu/NY/lplc53ne.jpg It is a topographic map from 1953 showing the Whiteface Mountain Ski Center, or Marble Mountain as we know it today. I was unaware that there were also ski trails cut on Lookout Mtn., as depicted on the map. Notice that there was a ski tow up there as well. Interestingly, the Lookout Pod that is planned as a possible expansion plan occupies the very area where those ski trails and ski tow once existed.

That's a nice find, but that wasn't my impression of the location of the Lookout Pod. The Tree Island Pod is slated for that narrow-ish drainage directly to the East of the "W" in Ski Tow. The Lookout Pod, from the sketchy documents I've seen seemed to be one or two drainages to the East of that - sort of due East of where the "S" is in Ski Trails up there. If the Lookout Pod were to be where you claim, that would be pretty limited vertical and highly exposed to the prevailing winds shooting through the col between Lookout Mt. and Whiteface. Just my $0.01.[/quote]

You're right, the Lookout Pod is the second drainage over from the Tree Island Pod (descending southeast of Lookout--but not from the top). I guess I was implying that it would be in that vicinity. I mispoke when I said it would be in the area where the ski tow is labeled. Between the two pods, they would cover areas that were once part of the original ski establishment.