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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowballs
    whoa! Matt, the State highway fund blah blah blah blah.
    You're right that a lot of money has been pilfered from the state highway fund, but that doesn't mean "socialism" is behind it. The Transportation budget in this state is somewhere around 14 billion. The state highway fund never had that much money, and even if they did, apparently they don't want to spend the money on roads . . . (11.6 billion - 35% of money taken in - spent on roads since 1991). So other people are paying for roads through their income tax dollars (non drivers, people who take the subway to work, people upstate whose tax dollars go to the MTA). Just as people pay for the fire department, even though they may never need it.

    I don't know what your definition of "Socialism" is, but I hate to say it, the Department of Transportation is Socialistic. The government (i.e. the people) control the means of production and the allocation of resources. Your problem is that you want "socialism" in one case (Transportation), but not in other cases. I don't know how to tell you this, but tough $hit. My tax dollars go to fund wars that I don't want, military that we don't need, and "faith based initiatives" that I don't care about.

    Yeah, I know that people use roads. Big revelation, that. I want more highway funding too, so we're in agreement there (I guess), but I also don't care if my tax dollars go to help a single mother, a senior citizen, or an unemployed factory worker. I don't know what your opinion is on that, but I got from the tone of your first post that this is the kind of "socialism" that you reject. All I want is consistency in arguments. I hate it when people toss around the word "Socialism" like it's the worst thing in the world. All it really means it that there's a system of the commons (roads, bridges, fire departments, public schools, unemployment benefits, etc.) that we all, collectively, pay into. If you're against "socialism", you should be for all private fire departments, all private schools, and all private highways.

    If you're more reasonable, and recognize that we have a mixed public/private system, than you won't be so casual with your use of "socialism" as some kind of insult.

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    Also, I don't have a personal vendetta against you, Snowballs, I just have a few pet peeves that you seem to bring out. One, I like to take a wait and see attitude towards new terrain. And two, I don't like the use of the word "Socialism" as an insult.

    Really, I just think it's a general attitude of despair and dread that accompanies a lot of your posts. I just think you need to relax a little.

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    I guess this is why 'politics' are against forum rules.

    It's a bridge, that none of us who post on the board are likely to use, who cares?
    Listen to the wind, It'll tell you things

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattchuck2
    Also, I don't have a personal vendetta against you, Snowballs, I just have a few pet peeves that you seem to bring out. One, I like to take a wait and see attitude towards new terrain. And two, I don't like the use of the word "Socialism" as an insult.

    Really, I just think it's a general attitude of despair and dread that accompanies a lot of your posts. I just think you need to relax a little.
    BS. i don't buy your BS attempts to cover your tracks. for instance, i never used the word as an insult. and i don't like your false accusations. you jump on me for no reason, then like a lil kid blame it on me and make up crap for defense. you need to grow up.

    oh, you like a wait and see attitude towards new terrain? more BS. i simply ask if Cedars would be flat and you went off. that's rude. it's your character and you chose to repeat it. therefore, i don't care what you like or what your peeves are. if you can't disagree with what i post thru facts, figures and logic, then you and your positions are and shall continue to be lame.

    by the way, the news reported the highway funds were spent on social programs. i pointed that out because most of our highway funds are no longer avaliable for badly needed road work. that's all.

    i'm plenty relaxed dude. i'm also very realistic. you can put your head in the sand all you want. is that why you speak jibberish? Like ....... the D.O.T. is Socialistic? WOW!!! hehehe, still laughin Matt.
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    Listen, man, I'm done.

    I'm not the one accusing people of being on welfare and having a "lack of integrity". I'm the one supporting my arguments with links, facts and figures. Your arguments are filled with some things you heard some place.

    I also don't feel like going back and digging up all of your chicken little-type posts on Cedars and how horrible and awful it will make everything in the world.

    It's not worth it, frankly. You can "continue to deal with me" (whatever that means), and I'll just keep on keepin' on. When we're in agreement, we can agree, and when we're not in agreement, we can disagree. It doesn't really matter, and it's not going to make the snow fall any faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattchuck2
    on Cedars and how horrible and awful it will make everything in the world.
    hehehe. LMAO..... I never said that either. just simply asked if it would be flat. it never takes you long to prove me right.

    You can't resist dining on your Nikes. OR bearing false witness against me. this reveals boat loads on your character. your frequent deceit shows a lack of integrity revealed by your own words. if you don't like it when i point out your lack of integrity, then don't do it! DUH!

    when you do it to me, i deal with you.

    can you figure that out?
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    I think the real problem here is the timing.

    You (and probably I) seem to get pretty riled up this time of year. Your crazy posts about the interconnect and Cedars were posted in early November too. I'll just chalk it up to preseason ski jones and continue to ignore your ridiculous insults.

    Like I said . . . I'm done.

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    The bridge is gone, I wonder if there was a tsunami on a lake:

    http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/st...t.wmv/play.asx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denison
    The bridge is gone, I wonder if there was a tsunami on a lake:

    http://pointers.audiovideoweb.com/st...t.wmv/play.asx
    LOL. i was wondering the very same thing. they were worried about people going out on the ice for a better implosion view. a small tsunami coulda sunk them all!
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