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  1. #11
    By the way, I'm an independent voter who is not fond of either party. The media tends to give the Dems/liberals a free pass.
    Independent my ass!

    As for the rest of your drivel - Conservative revisionism. You have reared your ugly head!

    ps. Nice attempt below to deflect the blame from the heart of the problem with your Tea Party brand of politics- The National Republicans and their conservative laissez faire politics, held power in the Congress, Presidency, and Supreme Court for most of the past eight years. NY State is now dealing with the problems they created.

    pss. re: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/a...HJymnpBLAr7mKO
    I thought the press always gave the dems a free pass?

  2. #12
    Just the facts man. Sorry to intrude on your charade.

    Besides, zski was refering to the Albany Democrats.....the ones who brought you this........

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/a...HJymnpBLAr7mKO
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    The only way to "fix" our government, both at the state and national levels is to institute term limits for all elected officials.

    Since there's no way our elected officials would ever approve such a thing, it's up to us, the voters, to do it for them. If every American citizen decided never to vote for an incumbent, we would probably be a lot better off.

    Democrat, Republican ... it doesn't matter ... 99% of them are slime who are solely interested in consolidating their power base and feathering their own nests.

    By the way, Snowballs, thanks for the heads up on the sales tax on lift tickets ... my bad! Regardless, a complete cutoff of funding to ORDA and its venues is an asinine idea. We can only hope that someone with a brain gets involved and puts an end to this nonsense. Of course, the state of Vermont can only hope otherwise! I'm sure they'd be more than happy to have more New Yorkers spending their money in VT.

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by Face4Me
    The only way to "fix" our government, both at the state and national levels is to institute term limits for all elected officials
    Yea. Problem is the Supreme Court shot down term limits for Legislatures. They said it infringes on a Legislator's 1st Amendement Rights to free (political) speech. Huh?

    Odd part is the Presidency and many Governorships are limited terms. Nobody says squat about that. It would be easy to extend the Supreme's decision against term limits for Legislators to the Executive branch. Also, there's plenty other avenues for free political speech.

    Some people never shut up about it.

    I don't suspect it will change until the situation is dire or on fire. When people get their buns burnt they will get motivated.
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  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by asland
    By the way, I'm an independent voter who is not fond of either party. The media tends to give the Dems/liberals a free pass.

    pss. re: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/a...HJymnpBLAr7mKO
    I thought the press always gave the dems a free pass?
    Tends, Asland, I used the word tends, not the word always. You don't know the difference? I will educate you.... if you tend to miss quote people you might always get it wrong.

    Pay attention. You may get tested.
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  6. #16
    Here's some odd rational. I copied and pasted it here so maybe more will read it. Here's a link in case anyone wants to sound off at this article comment section. I suspect some will.

    http://www.poststar.com/news/opinion...cc4c002e0.html
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    Story Discussion Posted: Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:05 pm | (0) Comments

    I recently heard the news about the state Senate budget zeroing out funding for the Olympic Regional Development Authority in Lake Placid, which hosted the Winter Olympics in 1932 and 1980.

    The Senate budget was birthed by a couple of downstaters - Majority Leader Pedro Espada (D-Bronx) and Finance Chairman Carl Kruger (D-Brooklyn).

    If the rest of us show the right stuff like these two guys, we can cut our way out of our budget trap.

    Places like the Olympic Arena in Lake Placid, site of the 1980 Miracle on Ice, cost money to run. And sites like the Olympic skating oval, where Eric Heiden won five gold medals, are taking up valuable real estate.

    It is true that athletes still come from all over the world to compete at the Olympic venues and tourists still come from all over to see them and to ski on Whiteface and get a thrill speeding down the Olympic bobsled run.

    But we're in a crisis. We should not be thinking about our long-term prosperity or even our viability. We need to think about whether we can pay our bills tomorrow.

    If saving money now means bankrupting our future, then we must. If we can save about $6 million this year by cutting ORDA's funding, it's worth losing hundreds of millions over the next few years.

    To make it personal, let's say you offered to give me $5 right now to quit my job. I'd do it, even though I have no prospects and my family relies on my paycheck, because I'd have that $5 in my pocket, and right now my pocket is empty.

    A recent SUNY Plattsburgh study found that ORDA's operations had an annual economic impact on the state of more than $300 million.

    But the study also found that ORDA employs more than 800 people and, because of ORDA's operations, another 1,200 people in the North Country region have jobs.

    If ORDA laid off all its employees, the state would save a nice chunk of payroll spending.

    And, if ORDA was gone, private businesses could lay off the 1,200 people whose jobs depend on ORDA's operations, saving those businesses a whole lot of money.

    People say it's hard to cut the budget, but that is because they lack creativity, and vision.

    It would not occur to most people to eliminate funding for an agency that makes the state money. But most people do not have the short-term thinking ability with which the Senate Democrats are blessed.

    We must seize the day, budget-wise. New York needs to put cash in its pockets.

    I have an idea for Espada and Kruger. In 2005, New York magazine estimated the real estate value of 843 acres of public land lying dormant in Manhattan at more than $528 billion.

    Can you say "budget crisis resolved"? With Senate Democrats leading the way, our next stop should be Central Park.

    Will Doolittle is projects editor of The Post-Star. He may be reached at will@poststar.com.


    Posted in Wdoolittle on Thursday, March 25, 2010 5:05 pm Updated: 5:11 pm. | Tags: Orda, Olympic Regional Development Authority, Whiteface
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    Amen!

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    Bravo Snowballs

    snow balls you hit the nail on the head. The Albany Dems are so short sighted. Let's save $6M that earns us more than triple that back in taxes.

    Love the sell central park idea - maybe it could become the Trump Park Towers and Casino.

    why stop there. There is millions of acres of trees in the ADK park that could be cut down and sold to solve the budget shortfall

    also thanks for the defense from that liberal panty waste ashland - he is too busy drinking the mass media cool aid to think any orginal thought. The dems created the bubble not the GOP.

  9. #19
    You are more than welcome Zski! Mass media kool aid..... that is a good one and oooooh so true.

    Hey guys, that Post Star article posted above would be a good place to reach out to the Politicos on this subject. The Post Star and it's staff win awards and even a Pulitzer Prize for their work. They are good at rattling Politicos cages and they monitor it to see which way the wind is blowing.

    Don't know if you saw Albany is trying to make helmets mandatory for skiers. People have varying views on helmets but I'll say I do wear one.
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  10. #20

    phil mahre is going to write a email to the NYS senate

    I'm out at the Nastar nationals with my kid in Winter Park. I had a conversation with Phil Mahre this afternoon (how cool is it to say that). I told him about the ORDA budget issue and he was pretty upset. Phil said he would write an email on Orda's behalf to the NYS state senate. Kind of hard to ignore that email.

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