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    Kid's Kampus Lodge Expansion

    is underway.

    The Stone Age didn’t end because people ran out of stones.

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    Anyone know what the Kid's Kampus Lodge will look like when complete. Will it be more room for eating, rentals, other services?


    The Stone Age didn’t end because people ran out of stones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highpeaksdrifter
    Anyone know what the Kid's Kampus Lodge will look like when complete. Will it be more room for eating, rentals, other services?

    From the Whiteface Unit Management Plan (starting on page I-9) available at Whiteface.com (http://www.whiteface.com/newsite/wf_ump.pdf):


    3. Easy Acres Lodge:

    The approved 2004 UMP included upgrades consisting of construction of a new
    6,000 sf building on the Easy Acres campus for the SkiWee/Drop-in and the 1996
    UMP included expanding the existing lodge facility to 10,580 sf. The upgrades
    approved in the 1996 UMP and 2004 UMP for the Easy Acres Lodge facilities allow
    the overall square footage to increase to 16,580 sf. The existing Easy Acres
    Lodge will be modified to contain only food service activities. A new kitchen facility
    and Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) compliant restrooms shall be added, and
    the existing nursery area shall be converted to cafeteria seating area. The
    conversion of the existing building to service solely as a cafeteria will allow for the
    most efficient use of resources. This strategy will reduce construction costs and
    use of natural resources. The reconfiguration and modifications of the existing
    Easy Acres building would increase the existing area from 9,739 sf to 10,300 sf.
    Figure F8, “Proposed Modified Existing Easy Acres Lodge Expansion” provides
    a conceptual layout of the proposed facility. These upgrades are within the current
    approved and permitted square footage increases.

    The Easy Acres main building currently supports ticketing, lesson registration,
    nursery, children’s assembly area, restrooms, staff lounge and lockers, food
    services facilities and a cafeteria. The mixed occupancies complicate New York
    State Building Code compliance. The existing arrangement of the buildings
    occupancies and access are not ADA compliant. The existing facility does not
    allow efficient administration of programs and guest services. In order to ensure a
    safe and comfortable visitation by the ski centers guests a new rental, ticketing,
    guest services, rentals, nursery and children’s learning center shall be constructed.
    This center will incorporate a connection to the cafeteria area via an enclosed
    hallway.

    The new facility would be located between the existing campus structure and the
    maintenance garage. The new location would facilitate access from the student
    drop-off point to the ski lift and would target keeping all guest services on one level
    to better accommodate ADA and children access. A basement level would be
    included for staff needs and storage. New construction will include an enclosed
    walkway to link the modified existing building to the new learning center. The
    enclosed walkway would provide locker space and provide views of the lift and
    outrun areas. The new facility would allow for the removal of the existing
    temporary yurt structures. The proposed maximum square footage footprint of the
    new structure, including both the lower and main levels is 37,200 sf; this estimate
    includes the connector-enclosed walkway. The total of developed area for the new
    building is 19,200 sf. Table T3, “Summary of Approved and Proposed
    Increases in Building Area for the Easy Acres Campus”, summarizes the approved
    and proposed development space.

    Conceptual drawings are provided for the new buildings. The new buildings will
    use earth-tone colors in the siding and roofing. Traditional gable style roof system
    with moderate overhangs and natural materials will be utilized to the most practical
    extent possible. Figure F9, “Proposed Easy Acres Learning Center – Plan
    View” and Figure F10, “Proposed Easy Acres Learning Center – Elevations”
    provide a conceptual layout of the proposed facility. Figure F11, “Proposed Overall
    Layout - Easy Acres Lodge – Renovation and Expansion” and Figure F12,
    “Proposed Easy Acres Campus Site Plan”, provide conceptual layouts of the
    proposed improvements.

    The expansion of the facilities at the Easy Acres is targeted toward increasing
    visitor comfort and building code compliance consistent with the rate of growth
    anticipated in the 2004 UMP submission. The lodges wastewater flows are
    seasonal and only reach targeted maximum design flows on Christmas Week,
    Martin Luther King Holiday weekend and Presidents Week. The 2004 UMP
    presented an increase in the growth of the facilities’ SPDES permit from the
    existing rate of 1,880 GPD to 5,600 GPD. An engineering review of the proposed
    growth rate and current attendances and historical flow data have indicated that
    the amount of 5,600 GPD proposed in the 2004 UMP submission is acceptable for
    2006 UMP amendment proposal. An engineering review is included in Appendix
    A1, “Schematic Engineer’s Report for Proposed Wastewater Disposal System
    Improvements – Expansion to “Kids Kampus” Base Lodge Building Whiteface Ski
    Area”. The Schematic Engineer’s Report is targeted toward development of
    wastewater consumption data for the proposed rate of the SPDES permit. The text
    in the Schematic Engineer’s Report on the treatment of wastewater is based on the
    existing seepage pit system. Since seepage pit systems do not embrace the
    preferred technology for wastewater treatment, seepage pits are not being
    proposed as the wastewater treatment system. Final wastewater treatment design
    for the facility will involve:

    • Modification of the Whiteface Mountain Ski Area SPDES Permit No. NY
    012 8783 for Outfall # 003 to reflect a new treatment type and increased
    design flow.

    • Plan review and approval by the New York State Department of Health
    Saranac Lake District Health Office.

    • The permitting process will be performed in partnership with the DEC and
    the DOH to ensure that all viable options for environmentally sound
    treatment are considered.

    In addition to the proposed building area the renovations to the Easy Acres
    Campus will include new decks and ramp systems to ensure ADA compliance and
    guest safety. The new decks and ramp system will total approximately 9,800 sf.
    The decks and ramps shall be constructed to allow water to migrate through
    separations in the boards and drain to a granular sub-base material. This will allow
    water to migrate into the ground and not contribute to additional stormwater runoff.
    The area targeted for new construction is primarily a previously developed
    impervious area. The area is identified as parking lot, access road and minimal
    vegetation area. Portions of previously developed impervious area surrounding the
    targeted building site will be reclaimed as vegetation area. Therefore, the building
    project will experience no net increase in impervious area. The total measured
    footprint of the improved existing building, the new building and enclosed walkway
    and the new deck and ramp systems is estimated at 36,335 sf or 0.83 acres.

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    As of 9/1 - looks like it's coming along nice. This and the new parking lot will make a great place for families and beginners even better.

    The Stone Age didn’t end because people ran out of stones.

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    Latest photo from RSN.

    The Stone Age didn’t end because people ran out of stones.

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    Kids Campus Pic and YOUR pic

    Thanks for the updated pic, HPD. Unless its the angle of the shot, it looks like the left side addition dwarfs the rest of the lodge, doesn't it?

    P.S. I noticed you updated your 'signature' pic too... I guess you got METS fever. LET'S GO METS!
    Skier 4 Life

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    I've been posting pixs from RSN here as the lodge has progressed. I new it was going to be alot bigger from the pixs, but didn't really realize how big until I stood in fron of it. It will be triple in size.

    They had a crew working on Sat.

    The new parking lot is the biggest at the mountain. As you come to the end of the access road you take a right into it. It's all packed crushed shale and looks great.

    Beginners and young families are going to love these new faculities. My only consern is since the lift capacity and trails are the same over there I wonder how crowded it will get?

    They needed more lodge space and more parking so overall I'm sure it will be a big plus.
    The Stone Age didn’t end because people ran out of stones.

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    Lastest pix from RSN. It's alot bigger then it looks here, the new part on the left goes way back.

    The Stone Age didn’t end because people ran out of stones.

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