Originally Posted by
NPN
Originally Posted by
frashdog
I'm a fat ski convert (tele). My one pair does it all now. Even ice with my new pair. Been on original jaks for four seasons, not great on hard pack/ice. They were difficult to get in slots. This season will be on team jaks, solid and torsionally stiff carvers. Got to use them end of last season. They do not fit in the holders. I love when the lifty (newbee) takes them from me and tries to fit them in the slots for me.
Yes I get the usual comments, "where's the pow dude". "when I was out west" bla bla bla
They are soooo stable and damp, they have nice leverage too. Edge is on the side off foot verses inside on skiiny skiis. Only debate worthy is they do not transition from edge to edge quick, true. But my style is gs to super g sized turns no poles, knees and hands skimming the snow, :lol: that's when I'm going foward. If you've seen somebody carving highspeed switch on tele's down mountain or sky that's me.
Again, to each his own, but don't even start to assume that a 100+ underfoot is going to
react in hardpack the same way a 60-70 platform will. Otherwise, Bode, and company would be throwing down powder boards around the World Cup circuit.
Yea ...I don't think I did even start too assume.... like I already mentioned, narrower waist skis have quicker edge to edge perfomance. That would be why racers use them? I do have a few years of alpine racing background.
My current fats will hold edge on hard pack at speed as well as any of the "old school" narrow waisted race skis I've owned/demoed. A few years ago fats were designed for pow and mostly pow, my original jaks were them, weak and worthless on hard stuff or at high speeds. I could twist the skis hard and raise the tips when weighting tails of the outside ski in hard turns. Now the new school of all mountain rippers demanded a wide platformed ski to handle most every condition at high speeds, thus the big stiff torsionally rigid fats. And the real powder special boards are just freaks with swallow tails, reverse side cuts, reverse camber, 160mm tips, 130mm waists just made for one thing.
Enjoy your one ski quiver, but don't kid yourself for one second that your Utah deep stick will perform anywhere near as well in the conditions that you'll find around Whiteface anywhere in the near future.
Oh, I'm enjoying it. Got plenty of pairs of skis for sale now.
Just because you can't get one of the new fats to perform for you the way you'd like doen't means others can't. You have tried a few out right, I'd assume so by your convictions on fat skis.